I finally figured it out!!!!

What are you on about? Guidelines, mods? I don't need to be a mod to state the simple fact that the reason there's sections is because it creates order.

Perhaps if you were, you'd appreciate the fact that the website is sectioned off for others to share the load.

 

i hope you don't actually think i'm a tosser.

but yeah, i know what you're saying. people shouldn't get offended because people disagree - it just makes for more stimulating conversation.

 

if you didn't create the forums and subforums... how do you know the reason so many were created and can state it as fact?

it creates order in the form of ease of use .... but if the sections and subsections were created in such a way to establish order amongst the posters this place would have been created with far less tolerance and freedom of speech.. places with zero tolerance for whole sections of society like the lesbian forum or massive restrictions on personal opinion and freedom of speech like The Sanctuary

the guidlines were developed and are upheld to help maintain the status quo amongst the posters.. i usually works too ... my main problem is that many of the forums have become secular and wotnot.. and seem to have developed their own rules and guidlines seperate to those the average poster feels are teh only ones he should have to adhere to.

indeed, but does "sectioned off" mean that freedom of speech is still being observed?

 

^ You mean like harassing people about thair account status like you constantly do to me? stfu

 

No, I don't think you're a tosser.

I agree. It would be boring as hell if we all agreed on everything.

 

I get what you're saying. Some forums, in my opinion, need exclusive rules however. People can discuss their distaste for say christianity in the random thoughts forum. However that is not allowed in the sanctuary because christians should have a place where they can discuss christian things without people coming in an bothering them about their beliefs.

Homosexuals should have a place where they won't be bothered or questioned about their lifestyle, same with the religions and whatnot. The reason there's exclusivity is to try and maintain an environment in which those people will be respected and can openly express themselves without judgement.

 

I appreciate all views and opinions...unless someone's view is something so above and beyond normalcy that it requires a little arguing but I know exactly what you're talking about in this thread...I know a girl who is so hell-bent on murdering all illegals that come into this country, however, she's a vegan because harming animals is bad...? People amaze me!

I also agree that disliking all people equally makes life much easier

 

no, i mean like reminding people that one of their profiles was banned and the new one seems to act very differently to the banned one.... making it very difficult to tell if you are really like the "svitlo" character or if you are really like the "sam stoned" character, either way it makes you very fake ... like i constantly do to you

 

well, i'd like to think anyone put a lot of thought into something as strong as religious intolerance, and certainly didn't achieve that pov from a random thought they had ... but yes, indeed, RT does often seem to be a refuge from the more militant forums and subforums out there ... maybe that's why it self destructs every few years :mickey:

so you are in favour of segregation? do you think you might be one of teh very people sam stoned was talking about in the original post?

 

Yes, lets do this in public so everyone here can see what a stalker-ass cyber-bully you are.

You're probably the type that takes shit all throughout his life, a bitter resentful shit who can only gets kicks out of fucking with other people.

And you're also a coward. You sit there with your group of internet 'friends' trying to make people feel small. But when over half the room doesn't have a problem with me, you keep ytour mouth shut and play nice until your buddies come to back you up. The base human weakness that you're personality reveals in you... I've said enough.

you're not gonna make me feel small with all these deep personial insults you like throwing at me. Cause I'm better at it than you. I'm probably better at just about everything than you.

 

i tend to pop into each forum and just take the piss out of everybody, seems fair that way.

 

none of the above ..... but ty for the internet psychology assessment, your opinions have been duly noted :mickey:

 

Sorry

 

Agreed here.

I think the aggressive self-victimization is an insidious disease- where the perception of powerlessness itself bestows great power. It doesn't just happen on discussion boards- it's something that has been culturally cultivated that makes people more inclined to sue than walk away from a situation when a marginal wrong has occurred. I results in folks feeling entitled to overreact when someone inadvertently expresses through word choice an inner prejudice.

Ignorance only gets power when people purposefully put on a thin skin to ensure injury as a result of mere words.. but it is the victim agenda which enables a litigation oriented society where victim status is seen as a sort of lottery ticket. The problem is that "victims" aren't guaranteed to be winners in the same way the trial lawyers are.

Politically It's arguable that it is the right-wing corporate wing of the government that is the least racist- but only because it holds all member of the public in equal contempt. The pandering left wing that promotes its stance of social and economic justice- as much to quell opposition lest that stance be seen as hateful- but things like affirmative action and any other policy designed to meet racial quotas are institutional racism which holds that the "gatekeepers" in life- HR professionals, directors of admission, etc. are incapable of making properly balanced choices based solely on merit- unfortunately this is true... and the social forces that express themselves as racial hate and resentment are only perpetuated when hiring and admission decisions are made based on meeting quotas when better qualified candidates are being denied opportunities on the basis of them not being a member of a minority group. If one looks at the issue a certain way one might come to the conclusion that the quotas were established by folks believing that members of a given minority aren't capable of accomplishing the end on their own.

The thing is... I've come to the conclusion that human nature- when offered a "booster seat" in life will tend to rely on that help- regardless of their background... and it follows that legislation sold under the premise of leveling the playing field likely has the effect of perpetuating the very imbalance that necessitates it.

 

Am I for complete segregation, absolutely not. Do I think that people who have been historically oppressed should have a refuge where they can discuss things that apply to them alone without fear of further oppression, absolutely. I don't see it any differently than a church.

It doesn't concern me whether I am or am not one of the people referred to in the original post. I know what I am.

 

That's a great post, very true.

Racism takes on many forms and it is still alive and well today. It can be harder to spot though as it rarely takes on blatant form anymore.

 

If it were blatant it would be far more possible to deal with. it is the covert racism that lingers in peoples minds that is the real problem- and the justification for government moves to expand into micromanaging society... because most individuals are not willing to examine themselves- they're too fucking busy being info-tained and figuring out what victim status they can adopt. it keeps us from uniting against the corporate oppressors who sell themselves as social and economic reformists.

 

I honestly feel that as a white person I have no right to feel offended by so called "reverce racism"

I mean, if someone judges me or decided they can't trust me because I'm white... yeah it's a shame. ,makes me kind of sad.

But at the same time, I have to realize that their people have suffered sooo much more because of it then mine. Sure, my grand-great grand parents were immigrants, and everyone knows the irish took their share of shit when they came here... but it's still not the same.

Someone has to be the first to let go of old resentments. I'm only 22 years old... but I'm already sick of seeing people fighting the same old fights over and over again.

 

I really can't bring myself to differ with you on this-

In my mind- every instance of discrimination furnishes an opportunity for the object of the discrimination to show that (s)he is a better person than the source of the prejudice but as a whole we're culturally conditioned to "lawyer up" amd utilize a system whose very prosperous existence relies in part on perpetual social injustice for it to "right". It's a great way to disempower people while having them believe that the opposite is true.