I Feel Humans Are Horrible

^I didnt explain myself at all in the OP, so my bad, but I think morrow thought I meant something other than what I intended

I'm pretty forgiving of the faults of normal, decent people trying to live their lives. I wasn't referring to an ordinary person in a bad mood.

I was thinking more along the lines of: murderers, war mongers, people who profit billions at the expense of the most vulnerable in society, idiots who feed children lead tainted water for years without doing anything, child abusers, pedophiles, mass shooters, tyrannical leaders, rapists, terrorists..etc.

And while the idea that the positive energy we put out into the world will come back to us is a really nice thought and I do believe it does mostly works that way in our ordinary interactions with decent people, it doesnt stop all those awful things from happening.

Some people are just psychopaths and sociopaths and all the positive energy in the world wont change that

 

That was in response to Lynn's post, guess we were posting at the same time.

Thanks for the reminder that extraordinary people walk amongst us, Meagain.

 

Well yeah... But those people MeAgain posted are all dead now. Not to bring you down again... Jus'sayin.

 

the stuff they show on the news is nothing compared to the actual human horrors of this world

 

I learned on the bus ride home from Kindergarten, usually in the back seat, about getting bullied...I must have been the prototype for the Stretch Armstrong toy, among other things.
This song reminds me of my thoughts back then, and makes me realize why this song was written and why it really happened a few times over the years.

Turn it up loud and listen to the kid...lmao. I understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRFJoUBP54o

 

Ugh, MM was one ugly mofo early on, well still is but learnt to hide it with better makeup.

Probably not the best thread for me to be superficial, but just saying, sheesh fuuuugly!

 

I was recently screwed over by someone (one of the first people I met since moving to a new place) and honestly it caused me a lot of stress in pretty much all areas of my life for a week... I'm not used to being name called or accused of malicious things because it's not me...

...but there are many good people out there too... don't let the negative ones bring you down!

 

Whilst you dont profit billions, you are one of those that take advantage of the most vulnerable of people in our now global society, everytime you buy well pretty much anything. We all are.

Whether its an end product, or the long chain of materials that come together to make or transport that product.

You are constantly supporting child labour across the world, as well as most of the nasty things you mentioned.

Becuase you cant see every step of the process, or becuase you are not directly involved, does that somehow make you less guilty


China still has a 1/3 of its households living on less than $3.10 a day. And most of the other 2/3 not doing that much better. Average household income across the country is only just over $US10,000 a year

 

https://youtu.be/GoG4ziny-QI

a schizophrenic friend of mine thinks the world is full of "wonderful people". Unfortunately I have to disagree with him. As Spaceman says, there are plenty of human horrors in the world, and I feel they outweigh the good in it. I try not to be cynical, but it's hard in the face of the facts.

 

I think the appalling thing about the horrible humans Meliai ment is that they do it consciously.
I agree humans as a whole have a lot to win by consuming more consciously but buying the wrong kind of baloney or cheap sweater when you're on a budget is not what makes us so nasty. The impact it has when we all do it is pretty damn nasty though, but still...: slightly different things.

edit: about China: a large amount of its population has reached a living standard that wasn't there before. It is still developing. Yes, there are big contrasts there. And a lot of poor people. But its far from stagnant. I don't really see how China/chinese people stand out in this thread other than by the idea of they're impacting the earth too much with their giant numbers. I agree, overpopulation is nasty and horrible. What makes individual humans nasty and horrible (imho) is when they argue stuff like don't bother making a positive impact on the environment because.. China

 

This is just an assumption or a belief. There is no evil in the absolute sense, and it is just a relative phenomenon.

Much of these psychopaths and sociopaths had abused childhood or negative environments. If they are provided the proper environment, they can evolve into normal human beings.

In ancient India there was a ruthless serial killer and highwayman called Angulimala who had killed many travellers and villagers, and kept their fingers, tied in a garland around his neck. His name Angulimala meant ‘necklace of fingers’. In spite of the incessant efforts of the king and his troops to catch him, Angulimala always evaded them as he lived in the dense jungle.
It was a chance meeting with the Buddha in the forest when he attempted to try to kill him, and conversation with him, that lead to his reformation and subsequent non-violent nature.


Greg Mathis was arrested several times as a teenager for his activities as a gangster in a notorious gang. After gaining parole upon his mother being diagnosed with colon cancer, Mathis began working in Mcdonalds, gaining degrees in law and public administration, and eventually ended up as a district court judge for Michigan’s 36th district, being rated in the top 5 of all thirty judges in the district.

 

You probably just don't focus on the wonderful people. When confronted with them you really can't deny they're out there.

I know the human horrors don't outweigh the good. The only people who I can't blame for seeing it opposite are those who have been subject to one of those horrors and are traumatized by it. But even plenty of such people can escape that negative outlook (i guess though only by experiencing 'wonderful' humans so thank all that's holy that those people are out there).
If you take notice of all the facts humans and the society they have forged for eachother, with all the good motives to try to make things better, are really not so bad. They're just not on top of things usually... and yes, sometimes they're obstructed by humans that inspired this thread. We're all subject to a lot of things. It's amazing how many people are not just in it for themselves. You know they all could be, right? Imagine how society would look if everyone would be a selfish piece of shit, totally apathic about how others are doing :cheers2:

 

The dollar in terms of value, has more buying power in China and other countries than in the West , and it can easily satisfy primary or basic needs.

Also a couple of decades back, China had no billionaires. Now it is in second place in the list of billionaires with [SIZE=10pt]319[/SIZE] , after the U.S. (565), and creating them faster than any other nation. China is the fastest growing economy in the world at the moment.

True , it is not exactly known for its human rights record, but it has substantially improved the material conditions of its people in a short period of time, and is still doing so.

 

I don't see that it helps to divide people into being either saints or devils. Most of us have a shitty side, and can also be awesome when it comes to it.

 

Someone once told me that most people do the best they can do at any time.......
Some people are mentally ill, also......and I never hated anyone for that.....but only the illness itself.
I know many good people in the world and i try to concentrate on those people.....as much as i can.

 

What? In simple English, please.....are you talking about a super brain or something like that, Friar? I have no idea what you just said.

 

Hate this illness!

To the OP, yes, I am here for a reason too. Trying to remember the good is the only thing keeping me sane right now. There are good people. And/or well, the stuff about them doing the best they can at any time-agreed (agree??). Yea, I admittedly am not perfect. Don't like some of my choices, but if I had to do them again, I probably would do a lot the same. So, yeah, giving my best and trying to remember that those who've hurt me were trying to do their best.

But you said something about this not being general every day folk. Well then yes, stop reading/listening to the news! Hang out with positive people (but not overly positive. You still need to maintain a level head.) Try to think about your part in everything. Just keep doing your best. And I liked that thought someone else said, smile and others will smile too kind of thing. And be ever patient. I'll just leave it at patient because I can't figure out how to say where my mind is rolling and don't want to get my foot stuck in my mouth again. patient with others and patient with yourself.

This thread made me feel a little better. It's nice seeing people come together to help comfort others, even when it's not about me. Oh!! But I did have this happen to me last night, so there! There is your not horrible people. I know, I know, you said the really horrible. Still, I think those closest to you, kinda like Spaceman eluded to, can be some of the hardest on your mental wellbeing, because you expect certain things, and I believe you should! (To some degree).

A nyhoo, I am rambling now.

Peace!
-Fun(do)

 

^Are you calling me an illness? I am not sure what you are doing ever.

 

Obfuscated on purpose so he seems to sound smart whilst speaking garbage