I cant believe this BP shit..

The inevitable and frightening question--what if they CAN't stop it?

 

So the planet is going to fart

Please don't anybody get the idea of lighting that fart.

In reality the release of that much methane into the atmosphere could be potentially more damaging and cause damage on a global scale more so than the oil leak itself.

 

God pushing the reset button on this game console called Earth and trying to get a higher score next time.

 

How much would this drop the level of the oceans?

 

i'm talking in the matter of human life, whether it be 2 or more generations

it is in fact NOT a matter of perspective, not at all holy fuck


and yeah scratcho, what if they can't stop it... it's scary, should run out eventually, but that could be in a year or so...poor gaia

 

No worries there. The glacial melting will compensate for that. :coffee:

 

Well thats sorta why I was wondering... any amount it does drop the level of the ocean, is that many more years before it starts flooding already populated areas...

Someone had to suggest some type of bright side here... lol

 

But the release of millions of tons of methane into the atmosphere would greatly accelerated the greenhouse effect. Then all bets are off as there would be no way to accurately predict the outcome.
Methane is one of largest contributers to the greenhouse effect in the atmosphere.

 

And he (Carter) was in favor of legalizing marijuana, almost happened too until the idiot who was the Surgeon General at the time (can't remember his name) got busted for writing illegal scripts for his secretary or some shit like that.

I think Carter said "I don't believe that the punishment for a crime should do more harm to a person and their family then the crime itself".

But that is a topic for another thread, sorry.

 

I was responding to your remark that the area may never recuperate.
It will, the humans and animals in the area may not, but the planet will.
May take a looooong time, but Earth will keep on chugging along.
We tend to only look at these type of things solely from a human-centered frame of reference, that is all I meant.

 

fair enough i guess, but you need not counter my argument which was legit...we are living, us humans are not extinct...it's something to worry about from EVERY perspective

 

I agree, I wasn't trying to counter your argument, I just looked at it from a wider angle I guess.
It is fucked up, nobody really has any idea how to stop it and if a huge blast of methane is released then it will really hit the global fan so to speak.

It's just that I'm personally not afraid of death so I often view these type of things from a perspective that doesn't include my or any one else's survival as an important part of the equation.

It's another one of those paradox's that the universe is composed of.
Every life, human and otherwise, is precious and valuable, but at the same time in the BIG picture they are also insignificant.
Aint life grand

 

Most of that stuff can be made from hemp oil.

 

i can understand your perspective of viewing in a broad scope and over earth history; however, i wouldn't say that oil flowing into the seas and toxic chemical dispersants added to that mix (in water and air) are comparable to an asteroid impact. not to say one is worse than the other, but the effects of each are very unique and i see it as apples and oranges, really.

the potential effects on ecosystem(s) from this disaster vary. the situation is still unfolding and those effects may not all be seen or understood for a long time.

 

..:smilielol5:

 

Everyone should take a good long look at what is going on in the Gulf. It is hidious, criminal, and absolutely devistating. The worst part is that it's not like there was not ample warning and time to alter our course and stop being dependant on toxic and noxious substances for energy.

 

I understand both points of view, however I think that the main difference here is that this disaster could have been avoided, but we humans chose to press on dispite ample warnings. When a meteor hits this is by choice and design of Creator and Gaia. Like hitting the reset button. Humans were given free choice and the ability to create and reshape the world for many reasons, the most basic to see what they would do with it. They have made bad choice after bad choice and now this is the result, though we have no way to know or understand the scope and ultimate outcome of this tragedy. One thing is for certain, it will change life as we know it and increase the already tremendous burdoun set upon our children and their children. :banghead:

 

Warnings and course-changes are for unpatriotic wusses.

Be a republican! Drill baby, drill!

 

yeah, but just like corn ethanol it is not viable at all on a large scale

even with the speed at which hemp grows, your still getting less energy than you put in, and if not making fuel but products, those products are going to be much much more expensive

not saying i wouldnt support hemp oil plastics and what not, but on a large scale theres no quick fixes like switching to a single source of whatever

 

Do you think there will ever be a change is consumerism with things priced the way they are now?

As for 'your still getting less energy then you put in", check your facts...

The point was that there are alternatives to raping the planet and letting it hemorrhage itself to death to satisfy some peoples desires for more and cheaper goods....

That fact that you jumped up and chose to just speak against it, matches up with the rest of society... which is why we are in this mess to begin with...

Nothing has to be done with one single option only. That specialization and focus is what leads to the extinction of societies AND species... We (humans) crawled up out of the mud and built (however wrongly) what we have today, precisely because we were the most adaptable species...

The more we throw that away by specializing and focusing on only certain aspects (gimme more oil), the closer we are to wiping ourselves out.