I am ashame to be Canadian

Discussion in 'Canada' started by bingo009, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. OSF

    OSF Señor ******

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    don't speak highly of me.

    I never claimed to be classy.
     
  2. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Dont worry.. Im sure people are busy emailing the Mods to have you banned.

    Just a 'heads up'.
     
  3. OSF

    OSF Señor ******

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    I'm not allowed to have an opinion on my home country anymore?
     
  4. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    another reason I'm ashamed to be canadian!
     
  5. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Dont ask me - Im just saying from experience there are people in here (and one of them is lurking here as we speak) who run to the Mods whenever they read things they 'dont like hearing about'.
     
  6. OSF

    OSF Señor ******

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    and on that note I'm off.
     
  7. Duck

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    The war was not illegal congress approved of it. You're a fuckin' idiot
     
  8. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    so then sadam's gasing of the kurds was lega because his government approved of it?
    we're talking on an international level you douche, the world and international law doesnt revolve around your country.
     
  9. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    But Canada does!
     
  10. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    international law? no such thing. There is the U.N. only, the U.N. doesn't have to approve of everything countries do, including war. I must admit America breaks the U.N.'s regulations and shit all the time but the war itself is not something that does.
     
  11. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    as a member of the un. america can't start a war without the approval of the un security council legally. america asked them for said aproval, and they were denied. the war was illegal.
     
  12. Duck

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    It's not law it's agreement. U.N. does not have any actual power over the countries.
     
  13. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    That's right- there is no treaty giving away our right to make war away

    However, there is a treaty that gives our right to legalize weed to the UN.
     
  14. Caitlin

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    If there were no such thing as international law, how on earth would we decide how to control criminal offences committed in one land, by a person not of that land? Would she/he be punished there, in that country? Deported to be charged in their homeland? For example, a french man visiting Thailand had sexual relations with a 12 year old prostitute, legal in Thailand, yet when he returned to France, he was convicted. Was that fair? Just? What should the laws be between countries like this? Countries like US and Canada create treaties for these sorts of issues. International law ensues.

    As for the U.N., as good as the general idea of that is, it is somewhat hypocritical in that fact that it contains 5 permanent members (US, UK, China, Russia, France), in comparison to the other 10 non permanent members. The permanent members, the original founders, each withhold veto power to agreements and decisions. For a general example, if the rest of the members of the UN wanted to kick France out, France could veto the decision...
     
  15. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    Mexico does not extridaite people wanted in the USA.

    Isreal does not extridite, nor does germany.

    International agreements apply only to the countries that make them. they are not world wide law.

    Interpol has a worthless warrant to arrest Billy Hayes, the guy Midnight Expess is about.
     
  16. Caitlin

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    They are international nonetheless.
     
  17. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I meant international law that applies to this subject
    But you are right
     
  18. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    be proud of your accomplisments and goals.. not what you are born into. its okay.. they do not represent you, you represent yourself. i know.. they were disgusting.. but they were doing it for themselves.. hardly unaware of your sensitivity towards their actions... i am with you on this one.
     
  19. raven23

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    I don't argue with Bush supporters anymore. they obviously don't listen and are blind to the obvious.
    if you're ashamed to be canadian because some of us decide to stand up to what is obviously a regime installed by the oil elite to further their own interests, using death and destruction to obtain resources, then maybe you should move to Texas, or better yet, join the army and go 'fight for freedom'.
    I said obvious, and it's obvious. Period.
    Even if 75% of Canadians agreed with the-puppet-President it still don't mean shit. North Americans are so snowed over by the media they can't tell their asshole from a hole in the ground.
    Luckily, Canadians are a bit more level-headed than the actual American. Our prisons aren't filled with black people doing 10 years for a bit of pot. We have less money to piss away on war and punishment, so we've learned to (sort-of) tell what a real crime is. We have racism here as well, but not near as much as parts of the U.S.
    And the Taliban did need to go. They should have been booted out of there years earlier.
    But Canada didn't support the war in Iraq. they are not part of the coilition of the ignorant. Perhaps it was no coincidence, but soon after we refused to join, the US found MadCow in our beef and stopped importing it. It's easy to blackmail Canada when we rely so much on them buying our beef and timber.
     
  20. raven23

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    Protesting is such a waste of time anyway. it doesn't stop anything, doesn't get much media coverage anymore.
    Protesting is the same energy as U.S. Anti-terrorism, in that it's about standing up for what we're against, not what we're for. Bush is oppossed to the terrorists, the protestors are oppossed to Bush, and it's all just opposition, which is not what we want in this world.
    Gandhi said "you must be the change you wish to see in the world."
     
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