I am a strait guy and I watch the Gilemore Girls

I didn't enjoy it the second time around. I thought I would, but I didn't.
I only managed to watch the first half of the first season.

 

I've seen the entire M*A*S*H series two or three times, it never gets old. I've also seen the Nothern Exposure series about three times, that's by far one of, if not the most well written television show of all time. There's so much depth to the characters and the writing was often very poetic and full of meaning.

 

Wasn't there a period when M*A*S*H was really terrible.
Minor characters became major and it all looked rather cheap.
I dunno...I can't remember.
I LOVE Northern Exposure. I watched it when it first came out. Loved it.
But even that turned to shit near the end.
I could sit through either again, though...
Perhaps not religiously, but yeah I have no problem watching those two again and again...
and talk about them with you.
There is just something about the GG's that is slightly annoying when watched again.
That's my personal opinion, anyway.
It's just not a programme two men can discuss unless they are latent or actual homosexuals.

 

Yea, M*A*S*H cheapened quite a bit when and because Alan Alda took over creative control. His character was great but he almost ruined the series for many people. It became sappy instead of funny and light-hearted.

The ending of the series of Northern Exposure made me sad. It was such a fantastic show but Rob Morrow (Fleischman) wanted more money and got pissy because his character was getting less camera time. The writers wanted to expand some of the other characters giving Rob less camera time. He threatened to leave for awhile, I think he got a bit more money but eventually decided to leave.

It left the writers in the very awkward position of having to fill in large gaps in the story which left the last season quite inconsistent. They tried to salvage the show by introducing a new doctor and his wife. They should have ended it before doing that. Some of the last episodes with Fleischman in them though were some of the best written ones with the most poetic and connotative meaning.

 

Most comedies are only good for about 3 seasons anyway. It seems like after that they usually have used up all of their good material and the whole show falls back on it's old cliches. I joke that you can tell the end of a sit-com because the last 3 seasons usually go like this:

Season 4: Mother get's pregnant. Youngest child hits puberty.

Season 5: Mother has child. Oldest child leaves house.

Season 6: Child that was baby last season is suddenly 5 years old and the rest of the family is the same age. Show ends mysteriously.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

That's actually pretty close to what happened near the end of 'All in the Family'. The kids had moved out by that point, the daughter had a kid and the series ended but started over in a series called 'Archie's Place'. In this series Archie and Edith adopted their niece who I think was the child of Edith's alcoholic deadbeat brother. I think that series only lasted a few seasons.

 

I thought so. I just forgot. I've looked it up before.

Yeah, I would like to see the last episodes with him in before the whole entire cast hated him.


This was dissapointing when I found out. I liked her as well.
Janine Turner as Maggie O'Connell,

As a conservative Republican, in the 2008 election, she campaigned for VP candidate Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and expressed her concern for what she perceives as a decidedly liberal bias in the media as a guest on the Fox News Channel show Huckabee on October 25, 2008 and on the CNN show Larry King Live on October 28, 2008. Turner is a frequent contributor to Republican Party candidates and organizations, donating at least $7,000 over the past decade.

On May 17, 2010 Turner was a paid speaker at an event sponsored by the Americans for Prosperity Foundation honoring Tea Party citizen leaders, where she declared of the Obama administration: “They don’t want our children to know about their rights. They don’t want our children to know about a God!”

 

That also happened to Growing Pains, Family Ties, The Cosby Show etc......

It has turned into it's own cliche. That's why I think Dexter may be on it's way out. His wife had a kid last season.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

Archie Bunker's Place
No. of seasons 4 No. of episodes 97

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Bunker's_Place

 

Malcolm in the middle?

 

Ha! Yes, that disappointed me as well. I was surprised if anything. Not only that, but a "decidedly liberal bias in the media," what news is she watching?

 

npr?

 

What's npr?

 

http://www.npr.org/

 

The BBC who (in my opinion) make the best tv on the planet, manage this really well. It is very rare for a series (especially a comedy series) to be commissioned for more than three series. If a show is given a fourth series there is usually a gap of a year or two between the third and fourth series to keep it fresh.

 

The BBC is under the same pressures as any other.
You say they manage this really well...
...I'd say they were sometimes unreasonably brutal.
Yes, the odd show has 3 - 4 series...but that is the average, perhaps even above average, lengh of most shows here AND in the US.
You'll never know all the BBC series that don't make it that far because they'll never make it out of the UK.
...then you get the opposite where a sitcom runs and runs and runs because the foreign market laps it up and they can sell the rights/DVDs till the cows come home.
Basically, I wouldn't romanticise the BBC "management" techniques if I were you...there isn't anything special going on.

 

In comparison to a lot of North American networks, the BBC actually does tend to have better programming.

 

I didn't mention the quality of BBC programming.
I am sure you are correct, though.
Just to be controversial: I'm sure many have better.

 

that's the equivalent of touching some dudes junk, and then deciding you didn't like it.

 

i'm trying to figure out what good shows they offer that stands them above the rest?