Hunting wolves?

Discussion in 'Endangered Species and Ecosystems' started by OlderWaterBrother, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Total bullshit!

    Nationally herds are up 30% from last year. right here in Montana herds are up 66% over last years.


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  2. Olympic-Bullshitter

    Olympic-Bullshitter Banned

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    Predictably, a last minute petition to stop this hunt was tendered in Federal Court. Unlike past attempts, this one was denied by Judge Donald Malloy. Judge Malloy stated "The defendants have offered scientific evidence that no irreparable harm will occur if the 2009 wolf hunts occur in Idaho and Montana. Plaintiffs have failed to offer any contrary evidence."
     
  3. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Now for the rest of the story...:rolleyes:


    "...Judge Molloy did find, however, that ultimately plaintiffs may prevail. In his opinion, the judge observed, "Even if the [FWS] was permitted to de-list only a part of a DPS like it has done here, it cannot do so in an arbitrary and capricious manner. The Service has distinguished a natural population of wolves based on a political line, [state boundaries,] not the best available science. That, by definition, seems arbitrary and capricious." The plaintiffs had claimed the delisting was a piece meal violation of the Endagnered Species Act, in leaving only Wyoming wolves protected."

    http://www.animallawcoalition.com/wildlife/article/599

    Check...:cool:

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  4. Olympic-Bullshitter

    Olympic-Bullshitter Banned

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    We need Wyoming to make some decisions quickly. They have, for good reasons, chosen to stay out of the current solutions, but it's time for them to move. We have won this battle, but this war is far from over.
     
  5. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    War? What have wolves ever done that is not what wolves do?
    In areas where there are sufficient numbers, Wolves are the reason you don't see a lot of sick, diseased deer and elk running around the forest. They are a necessary part of herd control.

    Check this out...
    Plan for Sharpshooters to Thin Colorado Elk Herd Draws Critics


    ESTES PARK, Colo., May 25 — The elk that roam Rocky Mountain National Park in their slow-moving majesty have become a signature attraction for tourists, and an economic driver of the economy in this town at the park's edge.
    [​IMG] Estes Park is on the edge of Rocky Mountain National Park.



    But the animals leave some mighty big hoof prints. The park's biology has been skewed by elk overpopulation, which biologists say is squeezing out even butterflies and beavers, both of which need the aspen groves that the elk herd of perhaps 3,000 animals decimates in its search for food.
    The town itself has become an elk playground as well. The animals regularly stop traffic — a phenomenon beloved by visitors — but they are also becoming more and more of a nuisance, and occasionally even a threat. The chief of police, Lowell Richardson, said he had been chased around more than once on the golf course. A woman was seriously injured several years ago when she got between a mother elk and her calf.
    But now the town-park-elk triangle, with elements of economics and elk biology in equal measure, is about to change profoundly, and few are happy. Park administrators have proposed a 20-year program of herd reduction and management that would involve shooting hundreds of elk, mostly at night in the park, using sharpshooters with silencers.
    Critics of the plan advocate bringing back wolves to control the population..."
    (bold added)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/us/28elk.html
     
  6. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    Wolves and cougars rarely venture into town. The elk will be quite safe there, their only hazard being automobiles, and possibly coyotes, but it would take quite a few coyotes to bring down an elk. As for the cop, someone has to keep policemen in line.
     
  7. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    :smilielol5:True dat...

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  8. Moondoggy

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    I find it highly arrogant of humans to believe that we know how to manage wildlife better than mother nature. The animal kingdom thrived before we were here and it will thrive long after we are gone, if we don't destroy everything before that.
     
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