Well the alternative would have been to leave Saddam in power to terrorise, torture, imprison and murder his own people! Far more deaths in the long run would have resulted for that stupid decision. There are going to be deaths in any war! That is why war is only used when absolutly neccessary. The removal of an insane, mass murdering tyrant like Saddam being a neccessary case!
This is a thread about hunting, you dipshit. Aren't you already blathering on about Iraq in enough threads already? Stop making a fool of yourself.
You stop making a fool of yourself as well! Why as a leftist do you think it is so important to ban hunting of wild animals when the left has traditionally campaigned about things like workers rights. As a long term member of the left I can tell you that animal rights was never on the agenda of any left wing party, who always put workers struggle first. We as old school communists strive and still stived for decent wages, shorter hours, better housing and education for the working class. These our our priorities not protecting a few foxes! Quite simply animal rights is a liberal side issue, not a central battle ground which the animal rights movement thinks it is!
Nice comeback. Ner ner Ummm, because I don't classify my political opinions in that way! As a long term member of the left, I'm well aware of that. Which is one of the many things that I find distasteful about it. Well we're getting right down to it here, aren't we? You're just an ass-hole with no sense of compassion. You sound like you're frothing at the mouth. Animal rights is a 'central battleground' for any caring individual with a sense of compassion. Clearly you're not.
No cos banning hunting is not just as simple as passing a piece of legislation. The hunting community are going to fight tooth and and nail over this and challenge the legality of the Parliament act in the courts. So this could tie up Parliament for ages and ages while other important legislation and Parliamentary work is delayed. Quite simply it is not worth all the expense, time and energy just to ban hunting.
We've already been over this, but clearly you weren't paying attention. I find it funny though, that as an alleged communist, you seem to believe that we should role over and conform to the wished of the upper class. I also find it ridiculous that your argument seems to come down to "we should only do what's right if we can afford it". Which kinda seems a little odd. But then I guess we've already established that you're a sub-human **** who couldn't give two fucks about the suffering of animals.
No you don't give a fuck about the suffering of the working class in Iraq who would have never have been free of tyranny had we not liberated them from Saddam. Yes thats right I give a low priority to animals as I see human liberation as the main priority, we can have animal liberation when we have liberated ourselves! If we spent all our time fighting for animal rights, animals would be free, but class inequalities and suppresion of the workers would still exist. Capitalism can adjust, you could just as easily have a vegan capitalism which still exploits the workers of the world. It is a question of priorities.
Glad to see we've got that one cleared up. As I always suspected, the pro-hunt lobby consists entirely of sub-human filth with no inherent sense of compassion.
One of the main arguments for hunting is that foxes are a menace... Why don't they stop buying horses and dogs and stuff like that and just build chicken coops that foxes can't get into?
By the way the real cruelty is factory farming and ritual slaughter. Factory farming kills animals after a fraction of their natural lives and condemns them to a totally unnatural life in overcrowded and confined conditions. Ritual slaughter is also absolutly barbric where animals are hung upside down and slashed across the throat thus dying in agony. But it is always convienent for the animal rights lobby to ignore that kind of cruelty so as not to offend Britains ethnic minorities.
LMFAO. The animal rights lobby has always opposed all forms of cruelty, including ritual slaughter. As you might know, if you actually had the first fucking clue what you're talking about. Not that it has the first fucking thing to do with hunting, which is a barbaric and outdated activity involving hunting an animal to exhaustion and then watching it get ripped apart by a pack of dogs. Gimp.
Why would the animal rights 'lobby' worry about offending Britains ethnic minorities? (this reply should be interesting! ).
It was also very convenient for the NF and the BNP to use this to condemn Muslims and Jews while still supporting the hunt. I don't mean to piss on your chips ... but ethnicity is sort of irrelevent here.
I know so why hasn't an MP come up with a bill to ban ritual slaughter and incidently I do know that there are Muslim and Jewish vegetarian societies. I am not have ago at people of different ethnicities, just at lilly livered MPs whole refuse to grasp a thorny subject!
