How much pity can u have for african starving nations?

I have not, but why'd you ask me? I'm just asking because if he hasn't the point jamgrassphan was making still stands.

 

Great post ........:2thumbsup:

 

that should be directed toward jamgrassphan and not you.

 

3rd world country doesn't mean that everyone is starving...

Just sayin..

 

Orly... that actually was my point as well.

 

I don't really consider Cuba a third world country because I think it fits into the second world category. And you can call me a "twat' if you like, but it doesn't make your attitude towards famine any less abominable. I'm fully aware of the U.S. efforts throughout history to impose all sorts of hardships on Cuba - most recently Bush's "Family" embargo - which was just another attempt at keeping U.S. dollars out of Cuba - which was reprehensible, and yet another reason I hate Bush. The thing I have respected most about Cuba is Cubans and their ability to gut it out and sustain themselves (a model that Americans need to follow if they have any hope of taking this country back from corporate ownership), but I don't think that justifies your attitude toward the famines in Africa. These are very different cultures and circumstances.
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1 - The bloc of democratic-industrial countries within the American influence sphere, the "First World".
2 - The Eastern bloc of the communist-socialist states, the "Second World" (I would argue that Cuba fits in here more readily than any other country in Latin America.)
3 - The remaining three-quarters of the world's population, states not aligned with either bloc were regarded as the "Third World."
4 - The term "Fourth World", coined in the early 1970s by Shuswap Chief George Manuel, refers to widely unknown nations (cultural entities) of indigenous peoples, "First Nations" living within or across national state boundaries.

 

And for the record - Yes, I have first hand knowledge of hunger in the United States and Abroad. There's no justification for it beyond deliberate control, war and conspicuous greed.

 

i have knowledge about other planets but it does not mean i have visited or experienced them.

 

i don't think someone who is from a third world country, who isn't anymore, should be criticized

i think it is actually a good thing. that is potentially one person, family etc. better off than they were before

to a degree, it does stand to reason that for some - poverty can be evaded. change begets change.

 

what the fuck does cuba have to do with anything?

 

my country has....

hurricane Mitch. 1999.

 

The thing about this 'feed the starving african children' thing that annoys me is that it's always "Feed the CHILDREN" instead of "Feed the PEOPLE".

Seems no one cares about feeding the starving african adults because their gone, deadbeats who failed at life, BUMS. You can't support people who failed and should of got their shit together! But their kids, their kids have a chance, lets support their kids on the off chance that their kids won't become just like their parents. Which I that mentality is just silly.

Seriously, if you don't want to feed the starving african adults, why are you wanting to feed their children? Their children are just going to grow up to be another starving african adult that you don't want to feed. The starving child isn't going to grow up, somehow get enough money, fly to a nice university in America or Englad, educate themselves and become a respectable member of society. They are going to grow up, live in their ghetto village built out of mud and scrap metal, rape women, spread AIDS and produce more starving children.

Either fix the entire problem in one go, or stop giving them a small 'trickle' of support to keep them perpetually going in a state of suffering they can never escape.

 

The small 'trickle' is there so they cannot say we don't care AT ALL.

Your absolutely right. Its one big bunch of starving people, young and old, men and women. Although if I landed with a suitcase full of food, the children would be the first I would feed. The nutritional needs of a child are much more delicate than the nutritional needs of an adult. Even if the adult has an apparent ailment, like diabetes etc, the needs of a child gain priority. I think its just a world which has a strong sanctity of children, which I have adopted. I'm sure in that, to some degree anyway. Like I don't feel bad that a kid is dumb because his parents didn't send him to school. If the parents are feeding him and bringing him to the doctor when he needs it, I loose interest sincerely.

The country(s) in question have/has no contraceptives, no health insurance, no food, yet of course they continue to fuck. That just goes to show how human life has the ability to adapt ANYTHING to normality, just like animals...which we are. You ever feed a neighborhood stray? I have. Damn thing keeps coming back, its not your fault that it keeps coming back...not the stray's either. Keep in mind I'm not SAYING they're animals, I'm merely comparing the ways in which our brains operate. If they can adapt to being starved, they can adapt to being stuffed is my point. The main ethical issue here is 'If you feed a bum once, you feed a bum again'. I guess they're worried that since the adults have the capacity to take advantage of the help, the children might lack that capacity and just go along with it for as long as it looks good to the provider of the charity, the charity is making enough money, or they have enough to give.

Asking for true, caring, capitalist giving is like asking for a hard, torrential downpour in death valley. It happens so rarely, that you might as well not ask for it at all and just enjoy it when IT decides to come along.

 

The money spent broadcasting those poverty commercials could very well possibly come in use for the very people they're videoing.

"Before this commercial ends.. Thirteen children will die"

Well.. Do us both a favor... Quit playing the fucking ad =D

 

Amen. Well said. The amount of money they pay to a celebrity to TALK about it could be used as well.

 

The US government pays farmers NOT to grow food to keep market prices stable, while allowing monsanto and others to monkey with genetics, and then play patent games with the world's food supply.

We could easily end world hunger if we cared.

We simply don't give a flying fuck.

If we ended the fruitless wars on drugs and terrorism, we could feed the world. And I'll bet it would be harder to recruit jihaddists to blow up those infidel americans who have the nerve to send the world food, without monkeying in their governments or religion or ethnic battles, than to blow up those infidel americans, who's tank just rolled by on your own main street.

But nooooo, we have to protect everyone from everything, 100% of the time, even if that's totally fucking impossible (look at norway) and only destroys everyone elses life, even though they're NOT being blown up.

 

My final thoughts on this thread - JMT is right - it is irresponsible to bring a child into a world of so much suffering - at this point in human history, I basically feel that anyone, anywhere who decides to reproduce is either ignorant or in denial of the impending energy crisis we are facing. Having said that, I think it's psychopathic to argue that victims of famine deserve no pity because they have too many children. That kind of thinking is essentially evil and is the source of every atrocity that the human species has inflicted upon itself.

 

it is a catch 22 situation

they need more hands to work, but to do so they also have more mouths to feed.

 

Jeff Gordon was in the Congo this past week raising awareness and shizz.
Pretty cool I thought, for a sports star, cause he's like a $100 million plus person and since the Congo is all war torn, it must of taken big ass balls to go there. I'd of been kidnapping.

 

they need to figure some plant to mass grow. cus in asia they grow shit loads of rice. so even in poor sections people do not starve. now eating rice and nothing else might not be the most healthy but you are not starving.

is the land in africa not fertile or something? and like is there no type of fruits that can grow there? they can't set apart a big part of land to grow a bunch of stuff?