How much pity can u have for african starving nations?

In those lesser-developed places that are still about the community, and not infringing the individual and his own rights, who would give the last food to you for your kids, would rip your fucking hearts out and eat them for reading this apathetic bullshit.

I work in a restaurant, the amount of food I see wasted a day is fucking disgusting in itself. Not even joking. We could send these people some of our fucking twinkies and oreos and rice and frozen vegetables and juice concentrate and so fourth, and not even notice it left the fucking table. Greedy fucking dick heads.

 

Im still paying off the Tsunami victims here..

 

There are alot of factors, limited education being only a small one.
Limited or no access to birth control is a big deal. Do you seriously expect people to just not have sex?

Also people who live in areas where the survival rate is low for children tend to have more of them. It may be culture or instinct conscious or unconscious, either way it increases the chance of having a child survive to a reproductive age.

Try to remember that sex and reproduction are instincts and avoid cultural bias.

You live in a wealthy environment and have access to alot more resources and information.

 

We don't appreciate those that do help enough.

I mean, look at all them pricks that support the selfish, greedy, customer-exploiting Apple; over Microsoft, which is owned by one of the biggest philanthropists in the world.

 

They have more children so they can have more hands to work with. This happens to all underdeveloped areas. They also have poor soil, little education, and little food; each one would get about 500 calories a day... there is only so much you can do with that number of calories.

Those areas are also being abused by big corporations and being taken advantage of. Guns are given to tyrants from overseas while the regular populace has nothing to defend themselves with. This ensures their dominance over the areas.

So to answer your question, I don't have pity for the general populace that are being taken advantage of but I do pity those that take advantage of them.

 

I'm not a fan of this nationalist perspective. Charity should be for ANYONE in need of it.

The poorest in this country will never starve.

 

There's a book called Kaffir Boy that I read when I was in like 8th grade. Basically, it's about a boy from Joburg that grew up in a house like that. He had the added problem of Apartheid. Dad would be walking down the street and the popo would stop him and ask to see his papers. If the papers weren't perfect he would be harrased or arrested. And they were desperately poor. Mom and dad slept in the bedroom of their little shack, but the kids slept in the kitchen. At least they had a kitchen. And they had to go down the street to get water. But they kept having kids. Fortunately, this guy got out and went to UVA on a tennis scholarship.

In our country, the stupid liberals in government want to give a mother more money for every kid she has. Democrats NEVER think of the unintended consequences and they are giving these stupid women OUR money!!! That's what I can't stand. The people in Africa are uneducated, and women often have to give in to their men. I think we should be giving them some money, take it away from some of the bloated government programs like the IRS, EPA, Dept of Ed and HHS. I'm sorry to make this political, but it is part of a political conversation.

 

lol.

 

This is the main reason why i stopped donating. The money never gets where it's most needed but it disappears in the pockets of managers and corporations.

 

People in developing countries don't have the luxury of contraceptives and sex education - this is why there are so many children and an AIDS problem.
There is also a very high infant mortality rate - hence the need to have enough offspring to ensure there is enough hands to do the work needed to be done, to help the parents and grandparents in their old age, to provide a male heir (most of these societies are heavily patriarchal).
Women often have little value - so do you really think their husband is going to listen to them when they say 'Not tonight, honey, we already have 5 children to feed'.
Having plenty of children (and often wives) is a sign of a respected and powerful man in many African societies - and generally the only way a woman can prove her worth is to have plenty of children, proving she is fertile - there hasn't been a feminist revolution in most of Africa quite yet, not sure if you know - so it's not like she can go to university, get a great job, pick and choose a husband, wait till she's 'ready' to have kids and then just pop out one or two.
Just think back to the recent history of the west - our forefathers were popping out 10+ children too, often for very, very similar reasons - infant mortality, no contraception and sex education (or any education for that matter), pressure on women to be wives and mothers and nothing more.
If you don't want to give starving Africans money, then don't. But these are just some of the reasons they have lots of children.

 

Your neighbours presumably include some who are descendents of Africans forcibly removed from their homelands to slave on plantations ?

That's one of the main problems - centuries of - mainly European - interference in Africa. Look at a map of the continent, all those straight lines put in place when the European powers of the day were carving the place up, with little or no thought to indigenous territories.

Then there's the influence of foreign religious ideaologies - Christian and Islamic. Think of the difference the Pope could make right now if he was to declare that God now says it Ok to use contraception, and has authorised the sale of some of the Vatican treasures to fund an immediate and extensive contraception programme, oh and some more money to improve water supplies, health care, etc, so the fewer kids you now have will have a better chance of survival.

If the indigenous African nations had been left alone, apart from consensual trade, who knows how they might have developed ?

We have the same discussions about giving aid abroad in the UK... as I see it, we [or our ancestors, anyway] were quite happy to go in and grab everything of value when they could get away with it. Now its payback time.

This isn't guilt or anything on my part - I never colonized anywhere personally - but it's just the right thing to do. And maybe we could bear it in mind when next meddling in other people's business that there'll always be payback time, sooner or later.

Talking of meddling in other people's business... Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, even sending astronauts into space. How much have these adventures cost so far ? How much have they cost just in the time its taken me to write this ?

And wouldn't that money have been better spent making life more bareable ?

Always money available for wars and space missions. Never available for peace and the problems here on Earth. You'd almost think there was a conspiracy or something, wouldn't you ?



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This is the main reason why they have lots of kids indeed. Not lack of education, that's a different problem. It's a total different culture and having more then one kid is the best if not the only chance for a relative good old day.

 

Very well said!!

 

That's a pretty big presumption.

 

I agree, though the masses don't seem to ever hear the good some people are doing.

I remember reading how a shoe company, it might be Vans, i don't remember, but it was a skate company. They went to Africa and gave away over 10,000 pairs of shoes. They were cheap to Americans but the children of Africa loved it.

I remember watching a program about Chris Tucker and a few other actors flying over to do good years ago.

Why we are not told when people do good is beyond me, it should me on ever local news station for it might get others to help as well.

One problem i have with Microsoft is that they use slave labor to create their products yet they help out starving nations? Hmmmm sounds fishy to me. I'm not trying to bash Microsoft but it would be interesting if we knew how much of their income went to help countries like Africa. If i made a million dollars a month and only sent $5 a year in support, that really isn't shit.... Though if i was filthy rich and was sending millions thats something else entirely.

We won't ever know how much is sent, because its very easy to speculate and assume they are doing a great deal of help. Just because you are part of the biggest tech company in the world doesn't make you the biggest philanthropists.

I remember when Oprah built a small school in Africa and flew down their to promote it. Out of all the wealth that woman has the most she does is build a small building out of materials that look like something a cheap apartment building would use. Yet it promotes her own image only giving HER more money and fame. That makes me sick. I don't believe she is the only one doing such. I'm not saying Microsoft is, or Apple, but when you use slave labor in one nation, and give what you say is help to others something is wrong with this picture.

I can't help but believe these rich companies are more talk than offering a hand in this situation even if they are giving some....

 

Microsoft still uses slave labor in other countries yet helps poor countries? Common, this sounds like its only helping ones ego.

 

That's most likely what most organized charity does IMO.

 

Another thing is how to you judge who has given enough to starving nations? Is it based on how much money you give? Or is it your own personal time given?

A lot of people might not send money, but why don't they try to donate some of their time?

Its hard to say who has helped enough and who needs to help more.

 

I was not aware of this. Thanks for pointing it out.
Kinda invalidates my example.. =P

 

why not? a lot of people don't have sex.