How much do you know about al-Qaeda?

Does Islamic group necessarily translate to terrorist? I know many radical Baptists but I am not trying to label them as terrorists, but perhaps I should.

 

I lived through the cold war, I ducked and covered, my parents and teachers tried to make me fear some phantom red menace. I remember sending our young over to Vietnam to fight the commie menance. You'll have to better than labels to win me over.

Especially when you bring up negros, and their degradation of the world with jazz.

 

Unfortunately that is what this thread is about. It is not about politics, it is not about war. It is about the history of a belief system and why it is a growing threat to the modern world. Muslims included.

Start another thread on this subject. Like I said, I will gladly participate.

Unfortunately, bin Laden is isolated. Does that mean we shouldn't persue him? No. The area that he is likely isolated in, along the Afghan/Pak border is one of the most geographically rough inhabited areas on earth, and demographically unique. I agree with Barack Obama's stance on this issue. The Pakistani government should be pressured into allowing forces into this area, and if they do not agree, to go in anyway. This brings up some very difficult political decisions for both countries however. This would make a great topic for another thread.

 

Bin Laden is holed up in a cushy home with electricity and plumbing inside Pakistan. The US doesn't want him or they would get him. Pakistan and the US unnatural arrangement? I think yes.

 

No. There are many brands of radical Islam. Some choose to use politics to further their agenda (the Brotherhood), some choose to use violence (al Qaeda), and some choose to use both (Hamas, Hezbollah). A definition of a radical Christian would be one that uses terror and violence. And yes, they do exist.

That is my fault. I should have made my post more clear. That was again a post by Sayyid Qutb and his impression of Jazz music. That is not my viewpoint.

 

Actually this thread is about Al Qaeda, whatever they may be.

 

Could be. The politics surrounding going into Pakistan is volatile, multi faceted.

 

Don't we all know that, and his name is George W. Bush, and his Vice President who pulls his strings is named Dick Cheney.

 

Supposed to be. I have no problem with a thread evolving, as long as it is productive. The 10 names in the original post are what you would find if you scratched off the surface of the household al Qaeda name. What I have been discussing in the latter is a layer closer to the root.

 

I am not so sure that the agenda this duo is persuing is religious and much as it is monetary. I'm guessing the faith that Bush holds is something that was acquired while trying to get off the bottle.

 

Al Qaeda is figment of US imperialists seeking to put fear into the western world. If Bush's faith rests in his drying out, more is the pity to the US public that has bought into it. Britney's children were taken away from her, while he was put in charge of a nation with a huge military.

 

Not according to Pepik, though. According to him they are real and they hate us for our freedom.

 

The only thing? I find it hard to believe that without our continued influence and meddling in the Middle East, that this Jihad would ever have grown momentum. Qutb hates the western world, he hates our women, he hates our lifestyle, but that is not enough to influence all who hate America. It is an excuse used in conjunction with those who do not want us meddling.
Yes I do know the history of many who have fought against the west, and many who were once allies and now fight against us.
I do not deny the influence of radical hate for western lifestyle, but you have to also consider what we have done to fan those flames of hatred.
You seem to insist that we have done nothing wrong. That the ONLY reason that we are at war is because radical Islamics hate the American lifestyle.
You are in denial, you seek excuses for American interference and ignore any influence other than what you have already preconceived

 

You guys must think America is the only country in the world and everything else is some mysterious TV land.

Al Queda is at war with a lot of people in a lot of places, not "the west" or "us". The majority of the people they have killed are poor muslims in developing countries. Its easy to sneer about boogeyman from the comfort of your sofa while they are busy beheading an aid worker in Iraq for a recruitment video. Not particularly clever though is it?

 

So what responsibility does the US have to go over there to stop something that has been going on for over a thousand years in these regions... especially when it has been proven time and time again that countries such as the US do not have the people's best interests in mind? However, when it's convenient for them, they will use it to pull at people's heartstrings and say "Look what they're doing!! We must stop them." Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have lost their lives since the US invasion, yet you talk like we're the big heroes or something. I think you know that's bullshit and that the US government could not care less about human rights when in the same breath they are embracing torture. I mean, please, spare us the bullshit already.

 

No Rat, that's just what "they" want you to think!

 

So the US doesn't torture people and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis haven't been killed since the US invasion?

It's a YES or NO answer!

 

It is also easy to justify the war with videos and tales of Muslim extremest atrocities, while ignoring atrocities in other, less profitable, parts of the world.

Yes, Muslims kill Muslims, usually over differing religious ideals. But how can you deny that the US, and the west in general, have aggravated the situation, and made even more enemies with their interference?

 

Al CIAda

 

So clever. How about el Che-da. My favorite is still Amerikkka. I wonder how many bowls it took to think of that.