How much 2c-I for psychedelic effects

my trip ended somewhere around 5am and I woke up at 7am for a UCLA basketball game (which I'm at now,letss go red storm). I'm pretty sure that the oral dose had no effect because of my full stomach,but the 10mg snortred gave profound effects. Cannabis and music really make the experience 'real' it didn't seem complete till I smoked a few bowls. The headspace was clear but too shallow for my tastes. You couldn't really get lost in your mind like you could on more complex psychedilcs. The body high was nice it felt very much like MDMA minus the love.

I had only one rough patch during the trip. I melted into my bed and had a mini seizure when trying to fall asleep. The visuals got really deep and my back spassed out and I arched my back cramped. I had to force myself to relax and it went away.

Overall I think the chemical has a lot of potential as a kick back drug, but not that much potential as a tool. Another thing noted is that the visuals get annoying after awhile because of how up beat they are.

 

Thanks for sharing, I'm looking at 2c-i, seems not so different from e, but with my recent trip on it, i didn't get visuals at all really, a few barely there cev's.

 

I'll have to try 2c-i again but I've never gotten much visuals on it at all except when I combined it with 2c-c in high doses: the first time I did 72 mg 2c-i and 100 mg 2c-c the second time a little less but over a longer period of time. I've done up to about 40 mg by itself I think, with no visuals at all, just some slight stimulation and body high, but I didn't feel much euphoria. I have very little 2c-i left, so until I get more which I'm not sure when that will be, I'm probably only going to use it in combination with other PEA's like 2c-e and maybe 2c-c again or maybe 2c-t-2, but I need to explore that one more by itself first since I have a lot of it. Of course, I seem to be an extreme outlier in the doses I take and how much they affect me, so don't think you will have the same experience on it I do.

 

From my experience, 2c-i is WAYYY different than 2c-e. At doses of 40-60 mg oral I get super strong visuals on 2c-e. At 60 mg 2c-e the visuals were incredibly amazing. Wonderful experience. On 2c-i, I dont really get visuals. To put this in perspective, the strength of the visuals when I did 100 mg 2cc and 72 mg 2ci was probably about the same in strength (maybe just a tiny bit stronger, but for much much shorter time, like an hour then they weakened whereas the 2c-e was strong for hours and hours), though much much different, as when I did only 60 mg 2ce by itself. 2c-e is the most visual PEA i've ever come across by far. I've done 40 mg 2c-t-2 which is supposed to give really good visuals, but it gave less for me than 25 mg 2c-e does.

 

2ce is king. 2ci is merely a court jester.

 

hallucinations, could you describe in more detail the differences between 25, 40, and 60 mg 2ce?

 

yes sure. With 25 mg 2ce, i get minor visuals of stuff shifting a little but not very much, and only with certain things like maybe sand or clouds if I'm looking around and focusing my eyes. If I ever relax my eyes while staring at something then stuff starts to bend and morph and shift a decent amount, but only while relaxing and unfocusing my eyes (this is true on lower doses acid too). With 40 mg, the visuals are much more apparent without relaxing my eyes. Things are slightly bending and morphing everywhere and when I look at the trees, it almost seems like the tops of them are extending and popping up into the sky. It also seems like things are flickering slightly. If I close my eyes, i can still see a slight image -- sometimes almost seeming like a negative -- of everything I was seeing before I closed my eyes. At 60 mg, everything in my vision is strongly bending and morphing in opposing hemispheres patterned throughout my vision. Imagine a large grid in front of you composed of many squares together, like graph paper. Inside each square is contained a hemisphere that can bulge out towards you, and then bulge the opposite way away from you. As one hemisphere bulges in, the neighboring ones bulge out. It is a pretty regular pattern with spherical 3D bulging, which is why I think the visuals from 2ce have been described as more geometrical than on acid, where stuff seems to generally shift more 2D where stuff seems to get closer together in some areas and farther apart in others in a plane, though some 3D shifting may occur. The sphere's from 2ce are fairly large, not a ton of small ones. Also at 60 mg, the sensation of things trying to reach out into the sky or pop into it is stronger, same with the flickering sensation. When I open my eyes and then close them, I feel like I still have my eyes open with the possible exception of things feeling like they are negated. I can even look around some and look at certain objects before the image fades.
The amazing thing is I have read that the visuals continue to increase in strength up to 200 mg, maybe higher. It would be insane to trip that hard for as long as that high of a dose would last! I cant even really think of what the visuals must be like.

 

I think I will give 2ce a try at a higher oral dose eventually. I feel my 18 mgs rectal trip was pretty much on par with what i've heard about the 40-60 mgs range visually but I keep hearing fascinating reports about it and I'm not sure if my Set and Setting was the best that evening. I will probably go with 50 mgs just to see how it compares to 2ct7.