How great are Busted?

Discussion in 'UK Music Forum' started by Polka Dots and Strip, Aug 2, 2004.

  1. Larry MC

    Larry MC Member

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    They dont care if they get the credit or not, its the money that they want, which they get.
     
  2. Sax_Machine

    Sax_Machine saxbend

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    yes, you are correct, they are fine with it, and in fact they do get some credit with people who actually count, ie their peers in the audio industry. However there is PLENTY of credit given to the faces involved in the bands and those people have fuck all to do with the music. Busted are treated like great musicians by the large number of people out there who don't have a clue. Something's not quite right about that.
     
  3. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    Are you sure? The tweenagers who like them couldn't give a shit about who makes the music - they're just a pretty boy band. Anyone else who puts any thought into it at all knows it's faked by the band and manufactured by producers. Who on earth regards them as "great musicians"?!
     
  4. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I think sax machine has prety much covered why both bands should dissapear down a well .

    thanks for saving me a little time :p

    I used to like Take that many years ago...in my defence it was only because the girls i hung around with liked them...any bloody tactic to get them to be more than friends i guess :p
     
  5. Sax_Machine

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    There is no tactic for that as I've found. You've just got to fucking mistreat them mess with their heads and basically hypnotise them into fancying the pants of you, in essence be a complete c***. And no I couldn't get THAT to work for me either :(
     
  6. sweetasasugarstick

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    Absolutely. Had i not been delayed in replying i would have...as close as is possible...truly mirrored what has been said about busted by sax machine and co. And as for Pink floyd....glad to see theres another fan my age out there. Can't get enough of them.
     
  7. matthew

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    Thats so true..the friends that had the personality of a snail and acted like twits got all girls .. nice boys like myself got naff all (not exciting enough i guess) thankfully my love life improved with age ... phew. I can still see all that kinda behaviour now , and it still PMOff .I can't be that way i am too darn soppy.:&
     
  8. Sax_Machine

    Sax_Machine saxbend

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    Well I've not got too close to a lady for a while, however my football team will always be there. They may underperform at times but I can always go back next game.
     
  9. Jennyflower

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    anyway, i think busted, mcfly, vs- they all seem to blend into one. theres nothing really individual about their music except 4 that wierd jump thing they do. i have to admit, when i hear their songs i do get up on the dance floor. but, im still waiting for another bohemian rhapsody to come out. why are all modern manufactured songs the same? i know they have different tunes but its all verse chorus verse chorus instrumental key change and then fade out. or along those lines anyway! id like to see em play live, it would b very interesting! x
     
  10. Sax_Machine

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    I can think of two reasons.

    1) the producers and businessmen behind these manufactured outfits have developed a formula that works. Their agenda is first of all to manipulate the market and make it predictable for them so they can decide what will sell best, and so once they've found something that works they stick to it. They've got a bit cleverer these days. it used to be just boy bands and girl bands. Now they've managed to make immitations of rock bands and even of trance/house producers, whilst remaining entirely in control yet fooling the public into thinking they're getting some genuine material produced by the performers themselves.

    2) It helps club DJs who play cheese'n'party sets to put their mixes together as all songs have a form and a structure that follow a small number of generic patterns.
     
  11. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    we as consumers .. generaly are fickle , or is that what modern consumerism demands a quick fix and move on.

    These two bands will last another few years at best and then the kids that buy it will grow up and move on . we all move on from certain bands and never think were they end up (butlins or cruise ships i guess :p ) ..... 'we' get bored real easy. Its 'our' fault for wanting new and fresh all the time. So because the music industry has to cater for the whims of the general public PPoor 'bands' make some noise cash in and them disapear..maybe thats why we knock 'stars' when they last more than five minutes..we may not like it but thats the way it is.

    Come on , not everyone can like all the so called 'real' musicians . I don't realy like bob marley , i find his music painful to listen too...but i would not stop others listening to him (if they must).

    I am being a bit of a devils advocate here...i still despise busted and mcfly ...maybe more because of the people involved rather than the actual music they make.
     
  12. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    To borrow a quote from John Peel, it's like selling cornflakes... people know what cornflakes are like, they like them the way they are, and they don't want to turn up at the supermarket to discover that the cornflakes they know and love have changed and are a totally different flavour and texture.

    The music industry is a business, interested in selling as many units as they can - just like cornflake manufacturers. The majority of the buying public know what they like, and are reluctant to accept change, innovation and newness, or at least will only accept gradual change.

    There's been plenty of great innovative new stuff since Bohemian Rhapsody... but with the increasing tendency of the music industry to focus on shifting units instead of encouraging talent and diversity, you just have to look harder and harder for it. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer outlets for genuinely different, innovative music. Nationally, only BBC Radio does it - late night Radio 1 and Radio 3. Unfortunately there's little or nothing on television at all - Jools Holland perhaps being the closest. BBC4 is sometimes good for new music but not everyone can get that. I used to watch something called 120 Minutes on MTV many years ago but can't get it now, so I don't know if they still have anything similar.

    You can't even trust the NME to tell you about great new stuff anymore, though that's a good start.
     
  13. matthew

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    Jools holland rides on the coat tail of others...
     
  14. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    Quite apart from his annoying tendency to play honky-tonk piano along with anyone he has on!
     
  15. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    ha ha ha ha thats true...okay he has some good musicians on his show. But him ..yuck .
     
  16. Power_13

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    I enjoy "Later With Joolls Holland". I just wish it was on a bit earlier, with a different presenter...

    :p
     
  17. Power_13

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    Why is that, whenever somebody mentions something that John Peel said, I can hear John Peel's voice in my head talking as I read the quote?

    Is it his distinctive, deep yet smooth voice, or am I just a nutter?
     
  18. hiddendoor

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    Nice one LOL
     
  19. Summertime

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    I'm going to start by saying that in no way, shape or form, am I a Busted or McFly fan. However, despite the fact their music is not that creative or difficult to play, I still think that there is a place for them in the music industry. Most children don't want intellectual, meaningful music, they want fun. Nursery rhymes are not considered good music but most children enjoy them. Listening to simple, cheery music doesn't leave kids with bad musical taste, either. I grew up listening to the Spice Girls, Boyzone, Take That etc. but by the age of 12 or so had realised that there were other sorts of music around. Aged 6 or 7 I didn't care what the songs meant or whether the band played instruments or had a backing track etc, they were just fun to sing and dance to. I didn't start to like my current favourite bands until I was 15 or so. After all, a 7 year old who likes Bob Dylan must be slightly pretentious, surely? ;) I didn't like Dylan, or Floyd or Janis or anyone when I was younger because the lyrics or soul or emotion didn't mean anything to me. Kids' music is about fun and that's what Busted and all the other teeny- bopper groups are about. I don't think their lyrics are appropriate for kids, but that's a different issue. At least they make us appreciate how good the "proper" bands really are! :)

    Summer. xx.

    ("Good" is also highly subjective!)
     
  20. Jennyflower

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    yeah i totally agree, the only problem being is that all my friends absolutely adore busted and they are perfectley intelligent people of my age and older, i just cant seem to see the facination that they get with that type of band. i guess everyone's mind works in different ways! x
     

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