This stuff is interesting let me tell you. There are dry spells and then BAM it hits you. In the USA the jail times are ridiculous for even possessing it. let alone manufacturing. So to get a hold of it one must think outside of the BB dictatorship. Even with all the monitoring going on overseas getting it back is the fun part. But once you find that someone willing to partake in the cat and mouse game. It is good to make friends with them. Being ex military sure helps...shit I've said too much already. A 3 hour drive to a hippy would suffice in my area. Anywhere from 10 - 25 depending on how nice you are to them and they are to you.