How does LSD change you?

PB smith is absolutely right on this one man. One of my friends has some underlying mental issues that came out after tripping. On the surface he's completely normal smart cool guy. After he tripped for the first time he just wasn't the same. He went to get help as PB Smith suggested (he was also very very skeptical). It took him a while to get back to normal with the help, but he did. He is now like he was before and is not on any antidepressants or other pharms. Initially though he was put on some pharms. He did express that he didn't really want to be on them and expresssed why, his psych was understanding and told him it would be necessary at first, but they would see how he did and then as he got better they eased him off of them.

I guess the decision you have to make is, is getting back to the way things were beforehand worth the work it will take. My friend says it definitely was. My recommendation is to at least give it an honest effort at first before you write it off. Before your pscyh prescribes you anything ask them why and let them know you're apprehensive about it and why. They are qualified professionals and can evaluate whether or not it would be better to use them in conjunction with therapy.

I hope this helps man. I'm also of the mind that a "Gonzo drug binge" as PB Smith put it will not help you. I've done a fair amount of researching on HPPD and other post trip irregularities and no where legitimate recommends continuing the use of psychedelics. I wouldn't recommend tripping again to help you feel "normal". It will quite likely just make things worse.

I wish you the best of luck.

 

Well, what can i say.. how long did it take for him to come back? how meny month or years? case i belive time healed him,,, all those drugs just destroy his body and make time go faster case drugs relaxed him (if you strongly belive what doctor tells you, and you think that drugs help you they eventually help with time that goes by)... just read one medication that treats shizophrenia or psychosys so meny side effects. + i am driving a car, and i dont want it to be taken away, + i dont want it to be in my health history. I just gonna wait..... if i cant fight no more or it gets worse ill go to a doctor. And by the way i stoped smoking weed alredy for like 2 weaks and scince i stop smoking i feal like compressed dipressed shit. I wish i wasnt fuked in a head, i love lsd so much even thow it betrayed me =)

 

Subjectively

 

You sure it wasn't your teachers?

 

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Errr it looks like this thread has meandered a bit from its original topic... but I'm going to tell you what I have to say anyways.

I have done acid precisely ONCE and it was still a life-changing experience.

I have no desire to eat junk food (because that shit becomes a PART of you-- gross!) my natural Synesthesia has expanded, I "understand" music, and for a few days after my trip I was really energetic and on top of things: doing chores, doing homework, getting up and GOING. It was really great, and I plan on doing it again. Lots.

 

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Personally, I don't think it changes most people too much. I at least wouldn't phrase it like that. Most people that haven't tripped before would take that to mean it changes you outside of their control. Assuming no underlying mental issues, I think any amount of change is dependent on the person's personality. It can give you a different perspective on existing prejudices in how to interpret and interact with the world. What you do with that is your choice.

A non-drug induced comparison, the first time a relationship failed, did you back away from relationships or did you jump right back in? How'd you deal with the next relationship? Either way, the experience itself didn't change you, but how you reacted to the experience that did. Some people react to the detriment of their life, others in a more positive way.

 

It probably only took him about four months to recover. He was functional after about three and off of all medication after five or six. I'd say it's probably different for everyone though. The main stuff they put him on was to get him back on a normal sleep pattern. He had a lot of problems sleeping in conjunction with his post trip issues which really intensified his confusion. (I lived with him and recall him sleeping for about 8 hours in 5 days). He was prescribed seroquel (SP?) to aid that. I'm not really sure what his other medication was. He was still able to drive a car though. Also your medical history is private information that is only available to your doctors so not a ton to worry about there. Getting used to life without weed and stuff just takes a little time. Its no biggie; just keep a positive attitude man. Also, like I said before if you're not down for the pharms just talking to someone can still be helpful. That's also your decision to make though.

You are right that time is gona be the biggest factor in recovering. I'd like to think you can shorten the time with help.

 

Ooh. Very good point. I think that's definitely the case.

* first post high five *

 

I jumped from just smoking to tripping. Acid was my first phsycadellic. I took quite a bit for a small duration. Long story short....Before use- Christian kid making bad descision. After use- Changed major to physics and explained the idea of god to myself...worst part is i can't reach that point of it all making absolute sense again unless im tripping. But the general idea stuck.
Plus, im a much, much much more logical thinker than i used to be before i used it. And im at least twice as laid back. Im overall pretty happy with the eye opening experiences acid caused me to have....but yeah. That nerdy sweet guy is totally right. It's not the experience that changes people, it's their reactions to the experience.

 

Just to clarify I'm not trying to imply that tripping is likely to cause HPPD or other issues. I was just addressing "Holucination". The chances of tripping causing HPPD are extremely minimal and although little is known about HPPD it is believed that it only occurs in individuals with a predisposition to certain health issues.

However, I DO think lsd changes you. Not only is it a great tool for self exploration and discovery it is a wonderful tool for exploring our own world. I have learned through my usage of lsd that addictive drugs are not something I want to be a part of my life. I have also learned that it is not always fair or just to apply your own logic to another person's actions and life choices. If lsd has not changed you in some way (and you've taken it) I challenge you to think about the experience(s) you've had with it and about what change really means. I'll admit it does not always result in some earth shattering conclusions about your life. However, I do believe that since it gives us a new perspective of the world it tends to invoke changes both small and big.

 

Sounds like to me, that you need to experience it first-hand, bro. Just try it yourself, and see what it does to your "personality".

 

They actually were using LSD to treat alcoholism for a while. Acid makes you so sensitive emotionally that they would pretty much induce in you a mild bad trip that would make you hate alcohol. Apparently it worked.

I think part of why I was so affected by acid was because while peaking I totally forgot who I was, and re-learning it felt really strange, so I questioned everything about my personality. Very odd sensation.

 

sadly really can't say it's changed me yet.

 

LSD healed me from war, among other things. I went from a hard-drinking asshole to a person whose life has been based on the psychedelic vision that we really are all One. More than 40 years later, I'm still in service to humanity, still growing beautiful things, still working on myself to become more beautiful.

There’s a place I can sit on the front porch where even in the daylight hours I’m almost invisible to any but a person with a keen and searching eye. There is intense fragrance from the jasmine growing up over the porch all the way to the peak of the roof and mixed in with roses and I look out toward the street and see the herbs and perennials blooming and then the arbor with all its roses and in the evening, the “welcome lights.”

Last night I saw my first firefly of the year and tonight, a hummingbird at the delphiniums.

Giving thanks.

 

It completely changed my life, mind, and soul.

Not one word is enough to describe how much I learned from this chemical.

 

I used to be one of the most sociable people around. I loved everyone, and loved meeting new people, but most importantly I loved myself. Recently I found myself dreading going to a party with my friends because I didn't want to have to make "fake" conversation with people, and I don't have any confidence in myself. This all started after tripping with one of my best friends and two of his friends. It all started out well enough but we kept eating more tabs cuz we weren't tripping that hard and each ended up taking 5 or 6 hits. I had tripped plenty of times before that including twice the week before, and always loved it, so i figured i could handle it. We were golfing when I turned around to see my best friend with a big smile doing some stupid walk, and I for some reason thought he was mocking me. And this lead to me thinking everything they said from then on was referring to me and my mind altered a lot of it to be negative. I was a leader in the past and have completely lost that with a good part of who I was. I can't go back I think I need psychiatric help but im not sure. I know I was just tripping, but everytime I am with him or either of his friends I still seem to think they are conspiring against me or are testing me in some way and can not be my old funny wise cracking self as hard as I try. I feel like a lot of my jokes fall flat. But the thing that really gets me is if i know i was just tripping and thats not how it was why can't i just except it and get over it? Ive been depressed, and anxious which comes and goes, but is not a feeling i ever used to feel. I also am very self conscious always in my head, thats the reason i think i cant be myself, because I can't escape my fing head. The only good thing that came out of it is it helped me escape weed which had a hold over me I couldn't go without, but now it just brings really strong feelings about the bad trip back. But I loved weed so its a gift and a curse.

 

I can really see where holucination is coming from. Don't get me wrong aciddd is the best, but I didn't want to trade my life for some really good times, and I have tripped since the bad trip, had one good experience with different friends, then tripped with the same best friends and one the same of his friends and had a half way descent trip was somewhat stuck in the middle, and tripped with one other friend and thought i was bugging out which was causing him to bug out, but he reassured me after that i wasnt. but I know i wasnt and havent been myself by the way i feel and the way people are responding to me. except for some very occasional times i feel like my old self and around certain people. it has been about 1.5 months since i tripped

 

sorry to post so much ive just had a lot on my mind and have been really nervous and upset about this

 

maybe the confidence you used to have was fake, and now you're back to square one, and now you have to find real confidence.

 

some anxiolytic drugs or antidepressants might help you alot