How did the universe begin?

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  1. starbuck

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    oh you got to! its a fun ride......i have the trilogy on blu ray that was a must!!!
     
  2. thedope

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    Only the first movie has any relevance as far as the "matrix" goes. The sequels are just good guys bad guys.
     
  3. starbuck

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    but the other ones are needed to end the story....

    and the fight scenes in the second one are the bomb!
     
  4. thedope

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    I thought it was a metaphor for how we have become slaves to a machine that is sucking the life out of us without our awareness of it. That if we awakened to the horror of it we could not tolerate it. Neo transcended the matrix, end of story. The fight scenes are noisy and irritating.
     
  5. starbuck

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    I love the concept and the computer graphics for that time were mind blowing...I appreciate it like art.

    I can agree that according to the philosophical side of the movie...the first one is the best and you can't beat it....but for my pure enjoyment I like them all!
     
  6. thedope

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    Gotcha. Me too. Dramatically they sucked.
     
  7. starbuck

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    well what do you expect....its keanu reeves.
     
  8. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    aint that the truth:rolleyes:
     
  9. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    anyone have any insight on how a single point of infinitely condensed matter/energy could come to be?
     
  10. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Not completely but when you consider that an atom contains more empty space than matter, the thought of such a singularity is very conceivable.
     
  11. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    Can you elaborate? Does a solar system not also contain more 'space' than matter? Of course it is not a very useful analogy to make because atoms do not consist of point-particles. Something with infinite density would have to have no volume, zero space. Or have infinite mass.
     
  12. thedope

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    I think it is fascinating that the mind within itself contains every reflection, a point of singularity encompassing all things great and small, just as silence holds every sound.

    It is the same question as how is the self. the big bang is an explosion emerging from the indescribable angst from the awareness of the immensity of self, we just had to be let out.
     
  13. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    I'm afraid your language is too nebulous to be useful to me. Even if you are right, I'm not even sure what you're saying. I need more concrete language if we are to have a discourse worth having.
     
  14. thedope

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    Nebulous language for a nebulous state. It has been said that the entire universe can be divined from a single grain of sand. There doesn't seem to be an accounting for the primordial state other than stories about it. All local evidence points to redundancy. That is redundant as in a wave or coming in waves. I feel that the initial state is still in evidence as current emergence.

    We ask the question how could such an intense point of singularity come to be?
    It is gathered together. I am suggesting that the point of singularity was not the first such state and that state of itself lasts only an instant. We breath in and out, I think the universe does the same thing.
     
  15. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I guess to elaborate further I would say that NO, I don't know how it came to be.
    I do however see how it is feasable given what we know about the make-up of matter.
    Is that any clearer?
     
  16. DroneLore

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    It's not that I misunderstood what you were saying, I was just asking for more. I don't understand why you think it is feasible.
     
  17. DroneLore

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    I want to know more about the singularity, I want to know what conditions it can exist under, and whether it is possible to predict the behavior of a system that has reached the singularity. I honor the universe by trying to understand it.
     
  18. thedope

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    I understand. what I am suggesting is that the point of singularity has no conditions to describe because at that instant it immediately becomes banged again.
     
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    4:20 cst
     
  20. DroneLore

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    What are you defining an instant as? An infinitely small unit of time, or the smallest possible unit of time? I still say, no matter how short lived the singularity may be, it is still measurable, in theory if not in practice.
     
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