Homosexuality.

Evolution does not create purpose for freakin sake. Morality is the only thing that gives anything a purpose and morality is somthing made up by people as a social contract. Evolution is simply a process of physical material in change.. this has nothing to do with concious purpous or morality, and there for nothing to do with meaning.

'Natural' is simply what happens within the world... many people are atracted to the same sex so it is natural. Humans are natural and therefore anything that humans do is natural whether it be fuck men or women. If you mean common then no.. homosexuality isn't as common as heterosexuality... but that has nothing to do with underlying purpose.

 

Nature does not have laws, where did you get that idea from? It is not our goal to reproduce, but we have the organs to do so so many people choose to.

there is no purpose as i mentioned in the above post... unles you believe that a god gave us purpose then who the hell else did? If there is no God then everyones view is subjective and doesn't apply to nature/the world.
And about the 6 finger thing.. since when is the majority the way things are 'supposed' to be? Most of the world is religious but thats a load of bullshit.. so just because most of the people in the wolrd have five fingers on each hand doesn't mean it was supossed to be.. it just means that it is, and for no reason.

Morality is a man made thing! Morality is only needed to stop people going around killing each other etc... since gay people are not harmful to society why would you care?

If you have no religon then where are you getting your absolute ideas from? like reproduction being a main principle?

 

By laws of nature, I mean to signify things or phenomenons around us that we cannot deny. Think of it as Descarte's cogito if you will: "Je pense, je suis". Proofs of nature. For instance gravity, reproduction, and simply the orbit of the planets. There are things around us that have their own flow, even with the absence of human existence. Things in which, even with our capacity to reason, we cannot change. It's hypocritical to say reproduction is a choice. Before we come into this world, our physical essence is already figured out, before existing, it's a confirmed truth that we will have reproductive organs, and which in the opposite sex has the result of reproducing another existence. I agree man has a lot of freedom, his thoughts, morals, etc... but once again, there are things around us that follow their own flow as well. If there were no ''laws'' around us we'd live in hazard, in chaos, which is not the case. We are limited by what's around, the material world.

And we cannot deny there is a certain normality in the world, if there wasn't I'm quite sure we'd be seeing a lot more people with physical malformations. Once again, atheism doesn't take into consideration that there is existence outside of the human's superior ability to reason.

And, no, matter of fact, I am not religious. Doesn't stop me from not being an atheist and using my reason to figure out evidences around me.

Reproduction is indeed a necessity, doesn't have a shittin thing to do with religion. The evidence is right there infront of your eyes, this liquid sperm does not simply exist for no reason, and I'm quite certain that when after sexual intercourse with the opposite sex, that the result of a baby is not simply a hazardous thing. It's from those evidences that you realize, wether religious or now, that there is something of greater intelligence than us that controls what we live in. Therefore that is all reason, and not religion, has come to show me.

 

it's not unnatural, it just has no evolutionary purpose. it's more like a pleasant side effect of our need to reproduce. people who enjoy sex are more likely to have it, thus they have more children, and thus we have the startings of evolution.

 

I'm hesitant to characterize many humans' reasoning ability as "superior"...
but I must digress.

edyb123-
Clearly the thread topic is a rather incendiary one where some people are going to look at it as offensive and others will look at that opinion as equally offensive. Folks are sounding off on their views, as per the topic and you are debating as though you expect to persuade then that they are wrong...? Some folks might see the very presence of this thread to be offensive, that it encourages those with firmly held negative mindsets to express them- and that alone will be taken as an assault by others.

I find the nature of the poll to be faulty in that it restricts the expression of a broad spectrum of opinions into three narrow options. Does this shed light on a narrow view you hold? I don't feel fully qualified to sound off on the topic itself because, without an insider's view, all I can give is opinion- and I'm finding that to be in a state of constant change. I've found that most people I've met who call themselves homosexual or bisexual also have tremendous strength of character. I can't help but wonder if this isn't coincidental- that dealing with what society at large dishes out forces one to cultivate wisdom and character- or to self destruct.

Those who express intolerance are merely giving their opinion as well. It's free speech and you DID ask for opinions did you not?

 

evolution doesn't create purpose, purpose creates evolution. if certain people have a trait that helps them survive longer and have more children, then that trait is likely to become more dominant. likewise, a trait that has nothing to do with furthering the species is more likely to slowly disappear (though not necessarily). i don't see what morality has to do with anything really; when i talk about a purpose i just mean why something exists or what it accomplishes, nothing to do with morality.

yeah, unnatural wasn't the best word to have used there, my point was just that it serves no evolutionary purpose

 

I'm sorry, but it just seems to me that that we have enough people in this world that are having a hard enough time as it is to continue making more. I mean, if you want to have kids fine, but that shouldn't be the sole reasons for sex. Frankly, it bothers me to see people stupidly popping out a bunch of kids when our world is overpopulated as it is.
How does it further evolution, at this stage, to produce humans in abundance? It probably hinders it, IMO.
The idea that sex is for reproductive sake only, does not hold water in this day and age.

 

I had no idea there were so many people on these forums that hate homosexuals; that think it's a birth defect (wtf?). I'm sad, and hurt.

 

Would you rather they secretly harbor their narrow frames of mind and you forge relationships with them unsuspecting that they can be capable of such negativity? I think it's great they people will express so very much about themselves so freely. It makes me happy.

 

No, but reading these posts has made me very upset. I went from angry, to just depressed that there are these kinds of people in the world.

I'm used to religious people saying it's wrong because of God. I didn't realize so many people think it's a biological defect. It just blows my mind.

They have the right to say whatever they want.

 

There are millions of kinds of people in the world, and many of them are full of hate due to ignorance.

Don't let them get to you... just shrug them off, laugh at them, ignore them... do whatever helps.

Remember that they are the idiots, not you... and that you don't have to come in contact with their kind in daily life if it upsets you.

Plus, learn to understand that they're too weak minded to think for themselves... and accept them for it, no matter how much hate their create... they are still people, and people are still beautiful.

 

Instead of being sad about something you can never change, be happy you're not like that and move on.

 

in my mind God made us and God does not make us sin, and being gay is a sin, you may become gay from your environment but as far as people saying God made me this way i call Bullshit............. not saying that i dont sin, but i dont blam it on God.... and im not some guy who is going to go hit some gay for being gay but you wont see one in my house. and no i dont think being gay is worse then any other sin but i dont see how a guy can take a dick up the ass and like it, it just down right disgusting to me, how can a guy chose a dick over a pussy i will never understand.

 

"Its not supposed to be".
OK, grant that for the sake of discussion.

I don't see why that implies its OK to remove another person's sixth finger without their permission.
It doesn't imply that its OK not to rent to the six fingered.
Beating up a "hex-dact" just because they offer to shake your hand is not appropriate.
Denying hex-dacts wedding liscences because "no one knows which finger does the ring go on" is silly.

The six fingered should be given as much respect as the five fingered.
(The Nine-Fingered DO deserve extra respect.)

 

Wanna go out with me sometime?

I know this great little club in a basement in Little Rock.

Wear something exotic... Like leather.

 

you're disgusting to me

but really, you should borrow your moms dildo and put it up your ass....bet you'll like it

 

But... but... how can you say that after all the fun we had together?

 

not you ruby, i love our fun together

 

I honestly can't see how anyone could consider homosexuality a 'sin'. I don't think that people choose to homosexual, that's just the way they are. People need to learn to accept others that are different from themselves.

 

Haha, I know

You post just popped right after mine, and I couldn't resist