Homosexuality

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Orsino2, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. neoteny

    neoteny Member

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    My advice is that you open up a little bit. You're not going to change anyone's mind by attacking him. Things get sticky when you start criticizing someone for his prejudice while holding your own.
     
  2. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Yes, I understand that... but fear is different from fact and opinion.
     
  3. neoteny

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    I'm not quite sure what you meant by that, but I think you're saying that anyone who is against homosexuality is literally "homophobic." I don't think that is true. I think it is possible to believe genuinely that homosexuality is wrong without fear being involved in any way.
     
  4. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    Wrong. It should not have the power to legislate morality because:

    A.) There is supposedly this thing called separation between church and state. Morality (as it is applied to issues such as abortion and gay rights) largely stem from religious beliefs.

    B.) Yer morality and my morality may not be the same, so how can the government (rightfully) make laws justifying either one?
     
  5. neoteny

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    First off, chill out. Secondly, I am not talking about the government here. I am talking about the right of an individual to hold any opinion he wishes. In the future, I would suggest paying attention to the content of the conversation before jumping in.
     
  6. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    I know. I was bein technical about it.
     
  7. chickabean

    chickabean Senior Member

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    for the record...just to spice things up and no doubt put myself in the firing line of all you incredibly 'open minded individuals'...


    1. i am not in anyway homophobic

    2. i am bisexual...

    3. ...however, i believe practising homosexuality is wrong..and noooo i dont mean just sex...i mean the whole caboodle...
    and i dont say that because it scares me...
    i dont say that because i am secretly gay because i have not so secretly admitted to have bisexual feelings..
    and i dont say that because it disgusts me because quite frankly, and for pretty obvious (bisexual) reasons, it doesnt...

    i say that because i believe god made man and woman to be in relationship with one another...



    3...2...1...

    open fire!
     
  8. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    Well. Good fer you. But that don't have nothin to do with the law, do it, ya hypocrite?
     
  9. chickabean

    chickabean Senior Member

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    huh? what doesnt have anything to do with the law?
    what law are you referring to?
    how am i a hyprocrite?
     
  10. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    Yer idea of it bein wrong don't have nothin to do with the law.

    I'm referrin to THE law, as in, the government. Those old white guys who make the laws. You know what I'm talkin bout.

    Yer a hypocrite cause ya say yer bi and then prattle on about how wrong bein gay is.


    (btw, this is not a personal attack. I try to criticize hypocrisy wherever I see it.)
     
  11. chickabean

    chickabean Senior Member

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    little hint..if this isnt an attack then perhaps you should think about the way you word your posts..if you dont want me to take offence then please dont post in an aggressive attacking matter "you know what im talking bout" "prattle on about"

    anyways...your right, my view doesnt have anythin to do with the government law but surely all these 'white guys' your referrinf to believe homosexual practice is wrong because of their spiritual beliefs in gods law which clearly states that a man should be with a woman...?

    i am not a hyprocrite because i am not contradicting myself...perhaps i didnt explain myself clearly enough.

    i know and understand that some people are gay, as in they are attracted to people of the same sex...i know this becuase this includes me...HOWEVER i dont think it is right to act upon theses feelings becuase of gods law and becuase of his intentions for his people. please explain how this could make me a hyprocrite?
     
  12. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    stop being a crybaby.

    WTF. Since when should politician's personal moral beliefs become law? I think yer five hundred years or so behind the time. SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE. "CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING RELIGION".... Have you ever heard of these?

    ...... whatever. Yer sayin' yer bi, but yer not, and that's it wrong, etc. etc. unless yer gonna be clearer I dunno what to tell ya.
     
  13. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    Queer doesn't even have anything to do with gays. It means "wierd". In fact Alice uses it an insane ammount of times in the original Alice in Wonderland
    movie.
     
  14. Orsino2

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    Seperation between church and state, if you don't understand the concept of this then get out of my thread.
     
  15. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    you tell em :p


    But ya notice how chickabean ain't come back here? S/he knows s/he's defeated. :D
     
  16. jerry420

    jerry420 Doctor of everything Lifetime Supporter

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    god damn im straight as an arrow,

    but some of this GOD bullshit is fucking disgusting. grow the fuck up. you say your bisexual...bullshit. you a fucking homophobe and your a liar.
     
  17. DarkLunacy

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    Wow... what a bunch of ignorant hate mongering bastards. Let me get this straight. You hate people because they hate someone... Hmm that makes perfect sense. I'm not bi I can tell you as a fact. How do I know? Well I have been that fucked up and decided about 15 seconds into it that "Hey, this isnt for me." THIS is why people hate left wingers. You stereotyped and flammed to all be damned hell and then you basiclly ostrasized anyone offering disagreeance or debate. People may believe that homo/bisexuallity is wrong because of their religious beliefs. That does not make them evil. Its what they believe. Leave these people alone. Just because they dont agree with it does not mean they automatticly want to outlaw it. You people asume to much of an entire populace and think your so much hollier than though. Hate perpetuated hate is still hate. If you cant understand that concept then just shut the hell up because you wont ever be on the same page as people with working brains
     
  18. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    Like yer one to talk you fuckin hypocrite!
     
  19. DarkLunacy

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    Ok... how am I a hypocrite/ignorant?
     
  20. Edward G.

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    You condemn others fer hating when you say you hope people get raped. Fuck you.
     
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