Sherlock, As a gay man myself, I have a problem with fundamentalists because they imply that gay people either: 1. Are not allowed to accept Jesus as lord and savior to begin with. 2. Have to commit apostacy and reject Jesus if they already believe in Him as lord and savior, which is basically the unforgivable sin mentioned in Matthew 12:31 about sinning against the Holy Spirit. I say felgercarb to those fundies, like Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson. There are no "pre-existing conditions" mentioned in John 3:16-17 that bar anyone from believing in Jesus. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that all those who believe in Him should not perish, but have eternal life." As one can read, it says that "all those who believe". It does not say "all those who believe, unless they're gay, black, Jew, etc..." All those who believe means exactly that. I know this is a rather bizarre analogy, but think of believing in Jesus as like a life insurance policy that allows anyone to be a policy holder regardless of who they are or what their health status is, but then again, believing in Jesus is life insurance, eternal life insurance that is, regardless of one's sinful status. Phelps claims that people like you and I "sin in spite of faith in Jesus". I say the opposite. I have faith in Jesus in spite of my sins. So keep up the good work. I believe in Jesus also and will not let Fred Phelps or any other hyperfundie cause me to lose faith in Jesus because of my gayness. He's just a wolf in sheep's clothing.