Holy Shit! Siberia Meltdown!

Very conveniant.. ignoring China/India most of the developing world .

I would imagine Skip was.. by not mentioning anything other than 'thanks Bush'... Most nations are 'involved in the oil industry' .. It is the american people and there greed and unwillingness to move away from pollution driving activities.. Lots of nations are like that like again China/India most of the developing countries.. 'None progresive' what do you mean ?.. not signing the Kyoto agreement ? I think they are in another 'agreement' with other nations because the Kyoto agreement does not work for them.

 

I think a lot of people blaming bush need to realise that this problem is not something that can start or be stopped in the space of a few years, but something that spans decades. The greatest threat to the environment is surely the Chinese right now and their economic and industrial explosion, all of which creates huge amounts of mostly unregulated pollution and demands huge amounts of power (I read something like 600 nuclear power stations will be needed by 2030!?).

The changes are quite worrying, and very complex. To say "we can just use the recently unfrozen areas to farm on" is sadly a bit simplistic. For instance, there is a school of thought that the gulf stream will be shut off with these temperature changes, freezing northern europe but baking asia, and turning India into a wasteland because there would be no monsoons.

I really don't want to get into a series of posts of speculation though, as I feel we are now along for the ride!

 

Link about the gulf stream and cooling from global warming:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3266833.stm

 

"..Lack of awareness of the basic unity of organism and environment is a serious and dangerous hallucination. For in a civilization equipped with immense technological power, the sense of alienation between man and nature leads to the use of technology in a hostile spirit---to the "conquest" of nature instead of intelligent co-operation with nature."


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I have done a little more research and discovered you can reduce wetlands emissions by using Sodium Sulphate:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4088314.stm

On the other hand, maybe it's time nature had it's own back so we can enjoy anarchy and basically it's every hippy for his/her self!!!

 

quote: Water makes it hard to masturbate good though.


It means exactly what it says, non-progressive, not looking towards the future, but clinging to the status quo.

This issue isn't considered urgent by the powers that be.

Don't know if you've ever been to the US, but we have very little public transportation, a very limited train system, and a huge reliance on trucking individual containers, one at a time, across thousands of miles....each massive truck spewing pitch black smoke into the air.