Hitler

Discussion in 'People' started by honeyhannah, Apr 11, 2005.

  1. robostiltzkin

    robostiltzkin Member

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    Jews keep a low profile in the US? Like all the government officials, entertainers, lawyers, doctors, accountants and attorneys? Even in the south. I don't buy it. Look around. And germany, as much of europe has a long history of anti-semitism. Until the late 1800s, germany, as such, wasn't even a country, but a collection of various states, and some ran them out, others did not. Anti-semitism has always had an important place in german "kultur" though.



     
  2. robostiltzkin

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    These situations have nothing in common with the situation in germany in the 1920s-1940s. Jews were in german areas for centuries, and were well established and assimilated in many ways. Jews were a very small majority. How were they "becoming a problem" exactly? Was hitler right? Were they to blame for germany's defeat in WWI and the Versailles treaty?
    Muslims are flooding into France and Britain at very high rates. They do not assimilate, are not well established, are very recent arrivals, and are constituting increasingly larger percentages of the populations of those nations. Immigration is nearly unrestricted. And they are in some cases, becoming a problem, by getting radicalized and engaging in terrorism.
     
  3. SpliffVortex

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    yes they keept a low profile in miami beach signs said negros and jews are not allowed in the beach. jews were thrown out of england and france long before hitler. i forgot spain.
     
  4. robostiltzkin

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    Hitler's beliefs about an aryan "race" were based on nonsense. The real aryans-came from India and Iran. The were not scandinavian "Uebermenschen". And most races, generally, stick to themselves, regardless of whether white, black, hispanic, asian, or whatever. It is not only a peculiarity of muslims or jews. You, yourself, sound like you probably have a lot of friends and associates of other races though, right? Why not go listen to your Hammerhead CD and get some more propaganda?
     
  5. SpliffVortex

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    the only place jews enjoy freedom with out discrimination was in hollywood and places like New York . The rest of the U.S did not find the jews very amusing . and this was in the 1920s 30s and even 40s. and many jews did not wonder off in the south as late as 6os and 70s.
     
  6. SpliffVortex

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    who the fuck is hammer head lol
     
  7. SpliffVortex

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    move into a jew run condo and find out. theres lots of them here.
     
  8. goldmund

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    robostiltzkin has some good points. Unfortunately, I have only had time to read the posts. I will be back to respond, my time tonight.
     
  9. Moonjava

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  10. SpliffVortex

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    Hitler loved rap music too
     
  11. Blue Lobster

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    What about England, France, Spain, Italy, Austro Hungary etc.
     
  12. Blue Lobster

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    And what's wrong with fighting the roman empire? They were another bunch of expansionist bastards who incidently didn't come from Germany.
     
  13. SpliffVortex

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    Thats right germany try to expand as one of european last country to do so with the sole idea of saving europe from the hurds of muslims now your paying the price for going after the Leader.
     
  14. goldmund

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    All I was saying is that some of the most important and influential political, philosophical, and theological theorists, both progressive and conservative, have come from Germany. Obviously Marx did not hate Jews.

    Again, my point was that Germany was not an entirely backward, regressive land. I am well aware that Frued was not "German" which is why I used the term "german(ic)". Besides, it was Vienna, Frued's home base, that was long the center of Zionism, and also where Hitler first started to despise the Jews.

    What? You think that because Germany opposed the war in Iraq that they are deep down colonial imperialists? Please elaborate.

    Pretty strong words. I am not sure what you are refering to exactly. Are taking about Barbarian tribes from 1500-2000 years ago that were certainly not limited to Germany? What about the Vandals and Visagoths? What about Barbarians from other places on the edges of the Roman Empire, such as Bulgaria, etc.? What about the Vikings?

    The Holy Roman Empire? I am not well-versed here, but I do know that during this period, Germany was neither powerful, nor influential. The idea that the Holy Roman Empire was even a functioning state is very debatable. This is why Germany soon fragmented into kindoms, principalities, and free imperial cities, not to become at all powerful until the late 1800s.

    The Franco-Prussian War? France declared war on Germany. They were afraid that they would lose out to an increasingly powerful Prussia who was set to marry into the Spanish monarchy. Nevertheless, Germany liberated France and set up the only republic on the continent during this time period.

    After Germany was united at the end of the Franco-Prussian War, they certainly became a larger more influential power in Europe. But evil? Esp. compared to other European colonial powers such as England, Spain, France, Netherlands, etc.?

    I have to admit, I laughed when I read this. It sounded like you got it straight from Dennis Miller. It is true, thank god, that by the 20th C. America had a well est. democracy with at least the possibly of a government that respected human rights. However, I think some of differences between the abuses of the American government and people during the 17th-19th/20th centuries and Germany during the Nazi era was simply mechanization. Surely you know about the use of germ warfare by settlers, the reservation system (read ghetto, read lebensraum), forced labor, etc., etc. If Americans had access to better machines to further institutionalize these trends, I have no doubt that we would have used them.

    My final point. You think that because a nation had problems in its past that it has no right to criticize other governments today, even though that nation has completely reformed and has fundamentally switched course from the atrocities which took place more than a half-century ago?

    If this is the case, then no nation would have the right to voice an opinion about anything concerning human rights violations anywhere in the world. Besides, Germany didn't overtly criticize America for the war in Iraq, they just said that they had legal and domestic political concerns for joining the war effort.

    It seems to me that this policy is anything but facist and racist. How is this policy a continuation of their Nazi past, or the so-called intrinsic German evil? Why don't you take a trip to Germany and see for yourself how much has changed?
     
  15. SpliffVortex

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    could not said it any better.
     
  16. Moonjava

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    and he was a left-handed vegetarian!
     
  17. Blue Lobster

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  19. SpliffVortex

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    However dont wonder off in a dark street at night if you are a American or British in the city of Dresden.
     
  20. goldmund

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    I wonder off wherever and whenever I feel like it here. I don't know about Dresden per se, but I feel safer here than I ever felt almost anywhere in the states. No one that I have met have any lingering issues toward americans, except in bars where US soldiers drink too much and start fights.
     

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