Hippies

I don't make retractions babe.

And I still make the assertion that there is no chemical difference, and therefore dietary benefit from eating organic produce over commercial produce.

Not that I'm saying a fresh home cooked organic meal and a hot pocket are the same thing.

Some varieties of commercial produce are grown because they are the most efficient however, and not necessarily the best tasting breeds.

Tomatoes come to mind... I thought I hated tomatoes until I had some fresh organic ones. :biggrin:

 

*throws tomato*

 

*and rotten cabbage*

 

1) there is a genetic difference between genetically modified food and organic food.

2) inorganic foods often have negative effects on the environment, some that we are not even yet aware of. don't you remember the controversy over DDT? the same sort of thing is happening with genetically modified food. you get mutant corn, mutant bugs, and some people will go so far as to say that we humans are at risk, too.

3) organic food tastes better, and you know this.

 

i was talking about the organic food comment. which he is still arguing about. so maybe he is still naive

 

Woman, please don't make me choose between you and my top bro. Of course I would pick you because his tits are starting to sag, but really, can't we all just get along?? :cheers2: lmao

 

I've written a paper on this actually. I'll debate you in a couple minutes. Right now I'm a far...far too high.

 

Well this is the HIPForums. If you don't like hippies go find the NONHIPforums.

 

1) There is no real difference between organic and genetically modified vegetables. Hell, many of the organically grown vegetables in the U.S. still originate from genetic modification. All the modification really does is take a mutation that is the most adequate for the environment in which it would be grown and reproduces it. To use bananas as an example, an area that floods alot would like a type of banana that grows higher than average and produces less fruit per batch so that the leaves don't hang down. It would also want a more resistant stem.

There are crazy ass genetically engineered vegies, like bananas that taste like apples...but those are simply awesome and no one can deny that.

The difference between organic and inorganic is in the growing process, not necessarily the vegetables themselves.

2) Mutations aren't always negative. Pesticides do damage the environment, but at the same time, organic growth takes a whole lot more space and produces less food, so there are drawbacks to that too.

3) The only organic food that has ever tasted better for me have been eggs. Organically fed, cage free chickens simply produce the most delicious damn eggs out there.

 

HIP does not necessarily mean "hippie". Most of the people that post here aren't hippies. Plus, I joined this website when I was like 14-15, I didn't know better back then.

 

You kinda have to understand that the whole "hail satan" stuff is an internal joke. No one with half a brain really takes that shit seriously. It's just fun to burn bibles and churches.

 

If this keeps up I'm posting a really long dense agronomy thread.

 

You know, I will. Random thoughts, you're on notice. Theres a storm coming.

 

Oh shit nigguh!

 

HAHA

anyway. i'm not saying i have an issue with your special bananas that grow higher and have stronger stems. the problems i have are with the ones that are resistant to certain insects. they poison them, and then the insects become resistant, much like in the DDT case.

my main issue is the pesticides and how they affect the environment. i know inorganic is not synonymous with genetically engineered. true, it may take longer to grow certain organic foods, but there is zero environmental damage. we all live in harmony, hip-hippy hooray. same goes with meats. the only red meat i would ever eat would be bison that is sustainably harvested. i eat seafood and such that is also sustainable. not full of nitrates and crap. they taste better. they really do. but it is primarily for moral reasons that i do it.

and goddamn are those eggs the fucking best.

 

My pencils are free range.

 

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I would be more worried about antibiotics in our meat than with plants who are resistant to insects. The antibiotics our diseases more resistant, and we can't genetically engineer people to be even more resistant, but we sure can make plants even tougher, no matter how much immunity the insects develop.

All in all, organic cultivation is not a practical reality in this modern world. It is merely a commodity that only very few people can engage in. Genetic engineering is the future and it is the only way we'll be able to feed the growing global population. Expect to see cloned animals as well as cloned vegetables in the future. Genetic engineering is also moving us away from pesticides and such things, as it makes plants more and more immune, therefore reducing environmental damage.

Organic growth is extremely wasteful. It requires more effort, space, and money. It cannot feed populations, it can only feed rich folk who can afford them. I personally hope that this organic trend dies out so that we could focus more on quantity in these times of highly unequal resource distribution.

But hell, you enjoy it, just remember that you are extremely privileged to be able to lead such a lifestyle.

 

You obviously have no sense of humor, and hippies tend to be more out of touch with themselves, and especially the REAL world than any other walking stereotype.

 

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