Its a forum, this is the internet. OMG!... its an E-riot! Remember we all have zero rights here, a mod can delete anything for any reason. U don't wanna see ME turn into an E-Thug and woop all ure E-Asses so we can have some E-Peace around here. Or is that sort of "hate vs hate" thing normally frowned upon as leading to more hate (which is undeniably true). By fighting for the righteous you are no better than those fighting for evil. Live by the sword - die by the sword.
Damn, I've started another riot. I feel like MLK Jr. unintentionally starting a riot for a better cause.
Oh no, not Bono. Dude I don't even care how mean or ignorant. I have an irrational dislike for Bono. He couldn't give a dollar to a homeless guy without 15 press orgs present. And everyone buys it!!!!! (ok not everyone, but more people than it seems should... I guess that's what I'm really so upset about...)
I firmly agree. Free speech is often misunderstood by people who think it means they can say anything they want. However, while that is true to an extent, when that speech harms others, or incites war or harm, then it isn't exactly good. It's okay to speak your mind, which is free speech, but not okay to insult another person or harm them emotionally. Free speech simply means you can speak your mind, but not harm anyone in doing so.
You're right it really means I can say anything that won't possibly hurt or offend anyone around me. Maybe we can establish a moral "what offends people" high ground. Then it will be easy to make sure "free" speech isn't abused. Like it or not truly free speech means FREE SPEECH. Curbing ignorant speech by "not allowing it" or pretending it's not there is childish. Wouldn't it be better to irradicate hate speech by choice rather than sanction? You know, cause ACTUAL change instead of perceived. Who decides what is offensive? You, him, the person hearing it, the persons that might ever hear it? It's a sliiiiiide man. Free speech is free speech, even if it hurts someone's feelings. Regardless of "laws" and "rules" people still have free speech, since the Vchip hasn't been inplanted in our heads yet. Welcome to earth, some people are ignorant and hateful. Dealing with, and learning to deal with people of different opinions than you is how you grow, even when those opinions are ignorant. Remeber, THEY don't think they're being ignorant.
Right on, cept I'm lookin' at the angle of free speech being above the powers of law, simply because speech came before conceptual-indoctrination. The law is like an electric fence and free speech is like failing power and pissed off dinosoooors mana. Hahaha, nature finds a way.
hmm an here i thought it was because you were attempting to shove your agenda down others throats..... MLK?? a bit egotistical there aint it? oh wait i forgot who made the post.. i guess that kinda statement is expected...
Sometimes free speech makes me wanna shit apple sauce and jelly donuts.Praised be a world of collectivity.
If you post to a thread and address another member of this board who has an obvious differing opinion than your own, and you start your post with the phrase, "Look, fuckface..." there needs to be consequences. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to abuse others or be patently offensive in the free exchange of ideas. THAT is what is childish. I know for a fact this is what Libertine is talking about. There is a certain member of this board who advocates a one-world fascist government that would function like Mussolini's Italy or Franco's Spain. I may playfully insult him or suggest that Kim Jong Il sexually arouses him, but I don't call him names or suggest that his theories are stupid and he is a moron just because I disagree. There is far too much of that sort of disruptive, hateful behaviour here and it's pointless. But yeah, it's an internet bulletin board, shit happens.
Oh DOES there? That's but one mans actions. While I think you're right overall, that doesn't change a thing. You can wish for the insults and hateful behavior to stop in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first. If you and libertine want to play Sisyphus have fun. Just start hitting the report post button.
I appreciate that you agree with me in principle but as for one man's actions, you're mistaken. We seem to get troll heavy on a 90 day cycle. I know, shit happens but policing seems to be a tad lax. OTOH, what does pushing a rock up a mountain pay these days? Is it hourly or piece work? I might be interested...
...I can appreciate and understand your concern for this individual... Many may decide that he too shall have his genetalia removed and inserted into his oral cavity, as tradition may dictate. Thankfully there are highly funded and rated advocacy agencies out in the world and a simple World Wide Web Internet search should see you finding one such organization, appropriately befitting the requirements as to help this individual, in seeking some well needed shelter, as such a need may arise... There are also many outdoor plazas of diverse tolerance in many metropolitan areas across several countries, which may cater to such individuals as safe havens. There they may express there feelings, watch nature, read a book, write out thoughts, have a picnic, find a girl, sod off, etc...