Hip-Anon?

You can't formalize decisions for all of Anon. Not helping is just your opinion. You, yourself. And you're speaking about one state not the whole country or North America for that matter.

It's possible for some Anons to splinter off to help the hippy cause as long as some hippies splinter off to help ours. Like I said, we can scratch each other's backs.

I'd still like to hear what Skip and more people from this board have to say.

Maybe this is another topic, so please forgive me if it is, but I see some hippies actually liking Anonymous. Have you thought about joining our forums now that they're back up?

 

For the love of god, people. By all means, use those parts of anon's tactics and style that you like, but do *not* start referring to yourselves as Anonymous or some derivative thereof just for the sake of more effective activism.

Anonymous are not activists, and they're not nice people. They're internet bullies who happened to find a deserving target in Scientology. They're not doing this because it's right, they're doing it because it's fun.

The reason that "Anonymous vs Scientology" has had three different websites hacked and crashed is because the old Anonymous from the -chans are pissed off that their Internet Hate Machine has been hijacked by activists.

And if you start calling yourself Anonymous for the sake of activism, the -chans are going to come after you with blowtorches.

 

Not every state is that simple. For example, police in florida have been known to arrest people collecting signatures in public for medicinal use initiatives. They also just passed a bill saying that voter initiatives need 60% (or 65%, cant remember) of the vote in order to pass, in the same state.

DC voters approved a medicinal marijuana law in 2002 I believe, which Congress overturned.

Other states do not even have a voter initiative process, and have legislature that would never pass such a thing.

There needs to at least be change on the federal level, classifying ganja from schedule I to schedule II, meaning it has recognized medical value and dr's can prescribe. This would allow the patients and dr's in states that have approved medicinal mj to operate free of federal prosecution.

Once again, if things were as simple as you made your post sound, this would mean we actually live in a country with an intact, honest, democratic process. And it would have been fully legalized decades ago.

There are so many barricades and checks in place with this issue, I think protesting would probably be pointless, especially since everyone loves to smoke it but doesn't really seem to mind dealing with prohibition. The masks seemed like a good idea, since a lot of people don't want to be seen protesting for weed and lose their jobs or become a target for law enforcement. The anonymity could possibly attract larger numbers of people willing to peacefully assemble and protest.

Not that we were asking for your help anyway.

 

I think you are speaking from your own perspective. And stop flattering yourself, we werent talking about calling ourselves Anons. At least I wasnt.

I simply like the idea of anonymous protesting.

 

Thats not true. You might get arrested, but could easily defend that in court as they would be lacking reasonable suspicion of a crime/probable cause. Since you would be protesting legally according to our first amendment rights.

But forget it. I hate the legalization topic so much that I decided to quit smoking weed.

 

But, I'm still interested in some kind of positive change. So keep the ideas coming

 

You may want to think about using the word Anon. The some of the old school Anon are kind of pissed at the splinter protestfags/moralfags for still fighting scientology. They might initiate back raids.

Of course I think that the ones that do, do not understand that culture mix change and adapt. It's impossible to own an idea. Many do understand. Some get to wrapped up in the roll playing.

Anonymity works for the scientology fight because the scientologists are so ruthless, that is the only way many people could come forward.

It's also key to keep protesting fun. If it isn't fun, people get board & go away. It has added a huge level of theatrics.

My suggestion is to not use anonymity unless you need to do so to protect yourselves. Constantly throwing in high scale theatrics & creativity constantly helps.

 

fix'd.

Bottom line, we've got a current goal. You'd hear a lot of "stay on target" and, like the post above me states, "we're not your personal army", were you to attempt to integrate with anons with your own agenda.

the point has been made numerous times before though, you call yourself anon and the chans will devour your soul. there's no real reason to fear them, but if you thought WE were capable of some annoying shit, you can't imagine maybe 50 or so pissed off channers.

protip: adopt the tactics. not the identity.

 

Skip, Skip, Skip... I think your enthusiasm is great, I think you have legitimate reason, to you, to protest. But you are trying exploit something that cannot be exploited.

I can only offer my opinion, but I believe it worth saying here and now.

Anonymous is everything, it is the embodiment of humanity. Anonymous is both is good and bad, both side of every story, and you cannot harness it.

As much as you wish to harness it you cannot, just as fail as some who say "we are the Anonymous". You cannot be THE Anonymous, it is an idea.

Any attempt to claim it is fail and self defeating as you have seen with some of our people trying to be "THE ANONYMOUS". Anonymous has no ego, ego is cancer that kills. Ego has hurt our cause more than the cult has, it is poison.

Attempting to "create" Anonymous will certainly fail, Anonymous cannot be lead by the nose, you have seen that here as some have demanded to be followed. Anonymous has always existed, it always will, you cannot create or destroy it.

In February this movement started with a purity that has since become corrupted with many egos. Nonetheless many of us continue to flow the best we can while avoiding the drama the best we can. Any attempt to lead it will end with your destruction.

Would people at the G8 protest wear pink since it works so well for other?

 

"matter cannot be created/destroyed"

oh shi- anonymous is pure energy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
replace the words matter/energy with anonymous and ladies and gentlemen, we have the long sought definition of Anonymous.

 

I think I'm missing something here dood...

on the plus side, your sig is hilarious.

 

Hm. Another tactic you'll want to adopt: identify idiots like that and run them out of the project.

 

I don't see any reason why you couldn't use the same tactics but if you try to say you're Anonymous you will probably get a lot of blowback from the chans and you will also risk getting your cause associated with some of the less.... how to put it... empathizable moments of Anonymous.

Masks maybe, they wore masks at the Trade Alliance protests but I don't know how far you would want to take that really.

 

Hi!

You hipsters should get this concept hopefully.

Anonymous is not a group, Anonymous is not an identity. It is a state of mind. Much like being a hipster (if I were to think of the hippy movement back in the day).

What does that mean? It means that people believe they can be much more effective and perhaps honest if you shed your personal identity. This state of mind means, that your ideas and not who you are is what matters.

It also means that you go to great lengths to ensure that no one should be able to track you back and place those ideas on an individual. Failing to do so invites the wrath of those who will tell you, you are doing it wrong.

At the birth of chanology, people who subscribe to this mindset and who have been cultivating it for years (true democracy through technology) decided for their own pleasure to go screw with a cult because they were meddling on the internet.

The putting labels of "protestfag, moralfag, channers, etc." is just our way of trolling each other, if you think the lables mean anything well you just don't get it.

Chanology is a real life extension of ideas born on the internet. It has muted over time and some of us who still subscribe to the concept of Anonymous, may still participate but most of those have moved on since our attention span is measured in nanoseconds.

I personally encourage you to use any and all concepts chanology has created / adopted / evolved to your own ends. I would caution on trying to hijack the "branding" that Anonymous has created over the years. We are pretty protective of our memes and while most of the "Anonymous" who have posted thus far on your boards and the nice activist kind, there are others who don't particularly care what chanology does but would care if "the hip community" started using iconotry.

You are more then welcomed to become GAIA2.0 or what ever it is you hipsters do (although not sure how your version of such a culture meshes with the hipsters I know but any ways). Good luck tilting which ever windmills you choose. Do not let any of the idiots here tell you what Anonymous is, the sheer act of defining it makes you fail.