Hinduism stored in the LSD Akashic record

about the only time I hear something about akashic it is always something to do with "the sleeping prophet" Edgar Cayce" he has left a record of his own in Virginia beach virginia

 

Go talk to David Wilcock, hes supposedly the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.

The thing is even though few or none of us have experienced this field, thousands of people have said they experienced this "place", including the great spiritual masters.

Now with the DNA coding, that may be the physical level's way of recording data, but there are such things that can only be explained through some sort of subtler level of energy. The deeper I go into my yoga practices, the less these astral, causal, and akashic realms become less just an idea and a fantasy, and more like a science that one should look deeper into to understand it.

 

So what your saying is that you prefer to talk/believe in magical, mystical, secretive and "out there" explainations rather than look at these phenomena from a scientific point of view?

Yeah, it is a lot easier to hold on to a belief in something when it can't be disproven.

As far as those who are "highly subscribed to typical scientific conceptions surrounding DNA" are probably a hell of a lot more open minded about such things than you are, and have the benefit of being able to research such from a scientific perspective and maybe produce some more verifiable evidence than just some trip report.

All in all your response to my post is a complete swing and a miss!

You can believe/experience all the mystical shit you want, but if you can't reliably communicate the same to others in a common framework, your just flappin your gums.
That is what making things sound all "sciency" is all about. It uses a common framework and language to study/discuss phenomena, whether it be a mystical union with God or how water freezes.
You see making things sound all "sciency" is what allows me to read, understand, and replicate other peoples research, even if they live in another country and speak a different language.

Get a clue.

 

It always amaises me how the posters are devided to "scientists" and "mystics". Both groups are usually talking about the same thing but using different words, and it ends up with separation on two or more groups who used similar words. Firstly, that argument between scince and religion lasts from the moment they were invented, and I think the time will come soon when they will join both together in something 3rd, eighter Quantum physics, string theory or something not yet named.
Those who prefer scientific explanations are also aware that our science is still very undeveloped to be able to prove so many things, yet they still choose to believe in those things that can only be proven by scientific experiments. On the other side, mystix are so convinced that there is so much more to what science can prove, and they choose to believe in misteries, or something that cannot be described rather than to be limited to what science knows by now.
Now, back to topic and to try to respond to OP with a bit of both ways.
Do I belive that Akashic records exist? Yes, I do, but I would not really call them that exact word, I would not say that it is connected to LSD. I would say that science is on the edge of discovering (and proveing) that another dimensions exist, with Large Hadron Accelerator or some other way, but it is just the matter of time. Those dimensions are "virating" on frequences that are not receivable by our bodies or instruments and thus can not be detected (yet). I think that LSD enables our mind to tap in to those frequences and make them "real" to us, but I can't say that they are not real just because we cannot feel them without LSD. Some people can use different ways to enable those frequences to be accessable, like meditation. In the state that can enable tapping in to those frequences (LSD, DMT, maditation, enlightment of any sort....) you are exchanging information with other entities that operate on those frequences, and you can say that you are accessing certain knowledge database. But I would not call that "database" final, or containing all the knowledge. I would rather compare it with our Internet, as according to my expiriences. If something is "online" (or operating on those certain frequences) you can access it and exchange knowledge, and there is always ever changing number of "hosts" containing knowledge, similar to our servers on Internet. Certain substancies (shrooms, LSD, weed, DMT...) are activating certain SET of frequences, and many are overlaping between them, but every set have access to different "hosts". Certain tehniques that hindy religion practice are activating similar set of frequences like LSD does, and there fore you can understand hindy on LSD much better.
I will try to go even more picturesque about this. Imagine our reality like one channel on a TV. All our sences, feelings, thoughts, physical surrounding, our body.....they all exist on this one channel. And then, somebody changes the channel and switch to another one, where none of those things (or just some) exist. We find our self in completely different world, witch is also very real (while we are on that channel). Does that mean that the first one is not real? Or when we switch back to first one, does it mean that the second channel is not real? Or third, fourth.... they are real, and emited somwhere in "ethar" we are just not on that one at the moment.
How will someone call this possibility is again another thing. Plenty of those happenings on "other channels" are beyond the words, because words belong to the "first channel" and therefore everybody is trying to explain it the way they feel it describs it the best. This is the reason why we can talk about same thing again and again and again, because nobody managed to describe it 100% accurate, because it is impossible to describe it by words. Yet, there is another possibility how to explain it, to be on the same frequences with somebody on the other channel, and only then we completely understand what that other person means. Thats why plenty of trippers claim that telephaty occured, that they had the same trip.....and usualy after that kind of expirience no words are needed, there is just a smile on their faces.
Evolution, what is evolution? Just beeing able to comute on more sets of frequences than before. Again, I think we are on the edge of another evolution, expanded consciousnes, step forward towards joining science and religion in something else.

Peace and love to everybody!!!

 

Well I'm proud to say that I am a science minded mystic then. I acknowledge that there is a lot more than meets the eye to existence and this reality we all have agreed to share. Remember we exist in a consensual reality. But I also recognize and accept what the scientific method of inquiry teaches us.

My biggest bitch about these type of discussions is whenever someone tries to portray their personal subjective experience as a verifiable occurrence and that I should accept what they are claiming based upon their own subjective experience. Sorry, it don't work that way.

If you were to go back through my posts in these forums, you would see that I very consistently point out what are my personal subjective experiences and what are verifiable facts or effects of some drug or something. I do not try to convince others of something that I alone experienced and try to persuade them to my way of thinking without providing some type of objective experience or basis for the other person to fully understand or even experience the same things I do.

Thats what gets me is some local yokel has some profound experience on LSD or something and then tries to convince others of the reality of what they experienced, like the Akashic record.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying it can't be proven or verified at this point in time, therefore I am going to approach it with a bit cautious skepticism.
I'm not going to accept something like that as fact just because Johnny Stoner had a bitching trip and talked with God.

There is a HUGE difference in saying;
"I feel like I tapped into another dimension last night while on LSD."
as opposed to
"I went to another dimension last night while on LSD."

The first statement I can accept with no problem. It is clear that it was the persons subjective experience.
The second statement is absolute and tries to put the person's subjective experience on a different footing that implies that such a dimension exists. Problem is such things can not be proven to ANY ONE'S satisfaction.
Seeing that we exist in a consensual reality, even our subjective experiences are put up against those of others to ascertain the validity of said experience.
Sorry but in this reality if it can't be shared by more than one person and all those experiencing it agree to some degree of the experiences validity, then it is destined to remain the subject of mystical "out there" type of stuff. Regardless of what anyone thinks, things and experiences only becomes real within the fabric of a shared experience.

 

I agree with you completely and by no means I didn't say that you have to believe me what I said. I was just replying to OP what is my point of view when it comes to Akashic records, and you have full right to disagree with everything I said.

Peace and love!!

 

I actually don't disagree with anything you said. I was just clarifying my position in general.

The whole concept of "vibrational frequencies" that determine what we are able to experience is pretty much the simplified basis for string theory.
Hell, science does tell us and support the idea that we are existing in but a very narrow "band" of the whole spectrum of existance that there is.

Scientist and mystics are a lot closer than most think.

 

Indeed they are! It is just shame that we have to live by rules made by polititians, who are not scientists nor mystics, but thats another story.

Maybe not, if we are talking about knowledge, according to polititians it has to be paid, eighter by money or by time in prison

Unfortunately, that leaves a lot of people living in a dark, they don't have money to gain knowledge in expencive schools, or they are afraid of punishment to gain some knowledge "illegally", or because of propaganda they are not even aware of so many benefits that can be gained by "illegal" substances. That is leaving us to debate on forums like this and hope that somebody expirienced similar things to you so you can confirm that you are not crazy and that there might be something in your discovery. The fact that the guy got Nobel prise because of LSD doesn't mean nothing to polititians and they are usually the biggest obstacle for scientists to research. As something is giving people "too much freedom", that represents the treat to them and the materialistic world they created, where millions are duying from hunger. When you face problem like duying from hunger, the last thing on your mind is to expand your mind and free your sole.
Sorry, I got carried away as usually hahaha.
Peace and love!!!

 

the relationship between god and the individual can neither be proven nor disproved, nor does it need to.

truth is real. if one person knows the truth and no one listens to him then is his truth any less valid?

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like i state earlier. i think that we are getting ahead of ourselves with this whole metaphysical nature of science and akashic record thing. the moment is here and now. it is not given to us to expand beyond into those realms yet, and there is a reason why.

 

The inherently devotional nature of man is demonstrated, whether that exceeds need is a useless point.

The body is a communication device. That is it's purpose. Truth is not redeemable or redeeming unless it is shared.

If this is true, why the dialogue of belief? Perhaps there are no other realms than here and now.

 

Yes, the mental institutions are full of people who "know the truth", but are ignored because their "truth" is not shared by anyone else. We exist in a consensus reality. The implications of that extend far beyond a communal agreement on what wavelength of light we all agree to call red.


Desos when you get to the point to where you can make and accept the concept/statement that "suffering is" or "pleasure is" without the need to apply any adjectives or valuation to it then you will understand my viewpoint.

 

the word Hindu isn't even recorded in Sanksrit, it's a fabrication.
Hinduism as a religion was created by British East India to generalize all Indian religions.

Sindhu was a geographical term used to refer to the people near the Indus River, however Arabs pronounced 's' like 'h', hence Hindu.

 

That is also my biggest problem with this whole thread, differing regional pronounciations. Karma, akashic records, and astral dimensions . . . fine. But for god's sakes get the sounds right, "SINDHU" you fucking jerks. :redface:

lol but seriously this was a good classic LSD forum thread. I like how at one point I just stopped responding to the posts I was responding to previously. Engine revving, RPM high, stuck in neutral though.

 

shapeshifter, I thought you were dead

Your context agrees with me just fine, but the imagery your metaphor produces, that of a stacked list of tv channels seems odd. I see it more like a big mandala and you zoom into different sectors of the mandala to get to different frequencies.

 

the akashic record is only as magical and mystical as you want to make it

Why do you need to prove or disprove something? Truth is inherit to reality itself, not what you think. Disproving and proving has absolutely no effect on whats actually true and whats actually real.

Something is not made more true by more people believing ti to be true, actual reality and truth has nothing to do with consensus, its inherit to reality itself, not human thought. Theres no thinking, only paying attention.

I mean the majority of people, at some point at least, thought the American government and all the corporations were this big caring entity there to help and watch over them as best they could. And while the majority of the people believed this, it still doesnt make it true, it only makes it true in some illusory sense. If some truth requires thoughts in the mind in order to maintain it as true, if some truth requires consensus in minds to maintain it as true, that means its a truth inherit to the mind, and is inherently just illusion. Real truth is true whether or not the human race exists or not,

 

So I never really read this thread through because it's long and full of fluff, but I have experienced a 'place' where it seems there is a lot of jumbled scraps of half-ideas, sorta like a landscape of idea, a landfill of consciousness. I recall a lot of different languages which I felt I knew the meaning of when I heard it, but could never recite. Is this akin to experiencing the 'akashic field?'

I just assume it's the experience of a drug firing random neurons making my conscious experience a jumbled mess of past learned info.

 

shoulda read through it would have answered your question, 'no'

 

You're right, because reality is subjective, if you delude yourself, it does count as reality... but only for you.

I think this quote speaks for itself. And I think it's replacing the respectable captain cannabis as my siggy quote of shame.

However it only speaks to OTHER people, so for YOU: Proof reveals the truth, doesn't change it, you clod.

of course the consensus does not affect reality, but the reverse. The concept's you're wrestling with are flying over your head, while you're simultaneously locked in their chokehold 50,000ft below.... "there's no thinking, only paying attention"... what the FUCK you talkin' 'bout, chile?

 

Wow, you couldn't be more mistaken. Truth of something has nothing to do with consensus reality. It has everything to do with how interpret that truth and communicate it to others.
How in the world do you think we humans manage to communicate and work together. Through consensus. If our reality were not based upon consensus, then it would be impossible to function beyond the individual.
As my example about the color red. We have arrived at a consensus that we ascribe a specific wavelength of light the term "red" to describe it.
Without that type of consensus based reality, what the fuck are you going to do if I ask you to hand me the red hammer, and there are ten hammers on the table, each a different color? Hell, how could I even ask you if we were not viewing our world through a model arrived at by mutual agreement?

That is a simplistic example, yet illustrates my point.

That type of consensus applies to every aspect of our reality, even what we consider "normal" waking consciousness.
Wrap your brain around that for a while.
Wrap your brain around that one and you may be surprised at the implications.

 

In the same paragraph that you notion concepts are flying over my head, you note that you have no idea what I'm even talking about...

you do not need 'proof' to reveal the truth, you only need to pay attention to your body and the sphere of perception surrounding you to reveal the truth