Hillary Clinton

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Karen_J, Oct 1, 2015.

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  1. Aerianne

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  3. I just see people playing this game where they act like they're not aware of the corruption and injustice that is rampant all around us. A big part of that being, yes, the disastrous "war on drugs" (sorry for your losses.) Not to mention the "war on terror". Not to mention the police shooting unarmed black people left and right. Not to mention one law applying to the affluent and another law applying to the rest of us.

    You know, I almost don't want to point these things out because I know some scumbag out there will be like, "No, the cops aren't doing anything wrong. Tamir Rice smoked pot." It's just endless and the only way these people are going to wake up is if something terrible happens directly to them.

    Of course I don't really hope anything bad happens to them. I am just saying this for effect and to make a point. I am tired of people who fight tooth and nail to defend a system that doesn't give a fuck about them.
     
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  5. MeAgain

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    More garbage. I don't have the time right now to properly research the authors of this junk, but he's one excerpt on Robert Morrow....

     
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  6. VerySexual

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    I'm gonna get sooo much flak for this, but I just gotta say it.

    The Clintons are so vile! Not just now, but from 30 years ago and probably longer.

    Seriously, would you want your daughter to idolize bill, or hillary? Ewww!

    She is so corrupt. Those 30,000+ emails that detailed how she sold the office of the secretary of state to the highest bidder...really? That alone disqualifies her from the presidency. Obama, lynch, comey...all covering up her crimes...really? This evil woa\man covering up for all of bill's sexual assaults? How can any woman, feminest or not, support hillary? If it's no big deal then why is everyone so bent on bringing Bill Cosby to trial for sexual assualts that happened so many years ago?

    There are all these women who insist they have been raped by bill clinton and that hillary has tried to silence them. Should their claims be dismissed? What if it were you? ...or your daughter? ...would you be good with silencing her for the good of the democratic party?

    Who is this guy, Danny Williams, who claims to be bill's son? This is an easy one to make go away. bill clinton just needs to provide a dna sample. Easy! ...unless he is actually the guy's father and has abandoned his son for 30+ years! So many people don't like Arnold Schwarzenegger, but he has a close relationship with his out of wedlock son. I just saw a picture of him and his son at Oktoberfest. Outstanding! Good for Arnie! ...and his son.

    When the clinton's left the white house, they stole things that belong to us, we the people. I remember them having to return furniture, china/place settings; a whole bunch of stuff. Really? They had personal files on 500 people. That demonstrates such paranoia, such evil. I remember this stuff.

    Who remembers whitewater? ...and all the dead people that seem to follow the clinton's wherever they go! Doesen't this alarm you!

    How much money, in the form of donations, has been stolen through the clinton foundation, from the people of Haiti? We the people donated money to help the hatians only to have that money be held in the foundation.

    Then there are her health issues. That alone should make people pause.

    This woman is so vile! There are so many other American women who would honor the office of the President of the United States. Ladies who would be the shining, guiding light of the greatest country the world has ever known to the rest of the world. Oh that's right, we the people didn't choose hillary, she has chosen us; like a cancer chooses its victim.

    ...for what it's worth, I liked Bernie Sanders; I was good with Bernie. Oh that's right, hillary torpedoed him. hillary's election fraud against Bernie was worse than Nixon's, but she gets another pass?

    Remember, Trump has been assailed by both the democrats and the GOP. I like that as I don't trust either party. (same poop, different pile!)

    R, VS
     
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  7. Balbus

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    Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    From the way many here seem to just accept lies, innuendo and half truths as solid facts and actually think a charlatan like Trump is in any way a sensible choice for President all I can think is American democracy is screwed.
     
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    And not only American unfortunately.
     
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  9. Aerianne

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    Yes, why is a blind eye turned to this wretch again, ad nauseam?

    The Democrats would have retained some dignity if they'd let Bernie Sanders' nomination go through.

    Edit* - I originally said that with Hillary's nomination the whole party now looks corrupt.

    I'll change that and say that since her nomination those in the party that don't seam corrupt, seem weak.
     
  10. MeAgain

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    And therein lies the problem.

    Many people take information at face value. They don't bother to check out the reliability of the source, the context, the factual accuracy, or the motive of the stuff they are all to eager to accept.

    1. What is the source of the information?
    2. Is the source bias?
    3. Has verification information or contacts been provided by the source?
    4. What is the history of the source and its reporting?

    5. Can the data be verified by sources independent of the original source?
    6. Has the data been analyzed correctly?
    7. Are there different ways to analyze or interpret the data?
    8. What is the context of the data?
    9. Is the data sample large enough or accurate?
    10. Is the analysis of the data cohesive?
    11. Is the analysis of the data logical?
    12. Is the analysis of the data circular?

    13. Is the conclusion drawn from the data certain?
    14. Is the conclusion dependent on the data gathered?
    15. Is the conclusion deductive (logically derived from one or more factual premises), inductive (probable based on one or more factual premises, but not necessarily true), or abductive (A happened after B therefore A caused B, a Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy)?


    We can't unquestionably rely on one or two sources for valid facts any longer, it requires work and research to find support or non support for the information we are now presented with. Unfortunately it is much easier and much more comfortable to believe the first thing we are presented with and that supports our preconceive notions.

    Unless we change our Republic is indeed screwed.
     
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  11. Aerianne

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    I don't know that they're scared as much as they are complacent.

    Either way, it's disgusting on the whole.

    I've spent enough time in the politics threads, now.
     
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    Not me.

    Clinton received training in proper procedure concerning classified material, and she signed a Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement stating that she did indeed receive this training.

    By signing this Agreement, Clinton also acknowledged that she understood that she was legally bound to the details of its content.

    Clinton then ignored her legal obligations as stated in the Agreement she signed, and was grossly negligent.

    Clinton was aware that the U.S. Code clearly condemns gross negligence, which describes gross negligence as exactly what she did.

    Clinton violated the U.S. Code and the Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement she signed.
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    I have her actions, the U.S. Code that condemns her actions, and the classified information nondisclosure agreement she violated after signing.
     
  13. Moonglow181

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    I don't listen to rumors I cannot verify myslef, so i base everything I feel from observing and listening to anyone myself.....
     
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    Hillary used a 15 year old child actor (Brennan Leach) to further her anti-Trump narrative... [​IMG]
     
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  15. Carlfloydfan

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    You guys seem to be forgetting her and the Donald go way back, they are good pals. They go to each others family weddings, etc. I bet you they will be sharing a glass of expensive wine worth more than a few months salary for the majority of americans, the night after the elections and laugh about how dumb and/or clueless the general public is.

    It is totally pointless to waste so much energy hating one or the other. Fuck it all, the whole system is broke, totally about cronyism. I know how it is but find it pointless to waste too much energy actively hating either one, unlike the majority of you guys who can't fathom respecting another's alternate opinion and resort to swearing that is so bad that it would embarrass your moms..
     
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    Just in time for xmas... get yours while supplies last..
     

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    Hating one or the other--pointless.

    Cornering shameless shills--priceless.
     
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  19. Moonglow181

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    It boils down to the issues for me. I don't need my taxes raised to support the richest any more....I don't need Roe vs Wade overturned.....I think it is up to the women, and govt has no business being in that business.....I want cleaner energy.....
    and as far as foreign affairs....I don't think we should be in any other country....We need to mind our own business...take care of all of the problems here....infrascuture and everything else.....
    and I think marijuana should be legalized...again....govt stay out of that personal business.....and if gay couples want tomarry...that is their busines again...so who comes closer to all of this?
     
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  20. Moonglow181

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    What makes you think that? Why do you say that? because of the email thing?....Quite frankly, I really do not understand all of that. I never really did...maybe I am slow in some ways.
     
  21. Moonglow181

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    I do read alot...and my brain is strong in many ways and not so strong in other ways....and some things...it is like people are talking in a different language altogether...I can only get the emotion behind anything....and some things I just don't understand as much as I try to. :(
     
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