yeah, i don't need you too, i am not member of your group, please send me back every dollors u have owned me. i am the owner of the bus, u have to buy my share!!!! private message from alex figured to avoid any more drama I will keep this very much in the open, as I have every single communication from everyone concerning money emails saved msn messages. from the original post "from now on buses we build will be co-op owned, which means all tribe have a right to them." "we put ALL our money we make in a communal pot, we elect a treasurer someone we all trust on each bus and they hold the money, they have no power over the money they are simply responsible for holding it and keeping account of what is spent. what the money is spent on is a tribe vote." these are excerpts from the first page of this thread, before anything happenes this is a tribe decision, since we didnt actually establish a guidline to something like this happeneing we have to create a precident this time. So this is an extremely important decision. pm june 8th Quote: Originally Posted by blinkin hey man Im building the canadian tribe bus. you still want on? this bus is community owned and purchased. the bus is costing me 5000 to buy and build that cost is bieng split between members of the community here in canada so far we have 3 for sure on this bus, are you the fourth? if so let me know when you can send me your contribution. drew, thx very much, of course, i want to join your new plan. this is my dream!!! well, i can contribute at least about 1000 us dollors. i will fly to america at 26th this month, i will stay in atlanta first. this was our initial agreement. as far as I see it he has paid his membership contribution which everyone has paid...and no one ever gets there money back, they get out of the bus what they put in. on msn alex and I spoke of this and it was his plan not even to see this bus but to meet me only in new mexico after getting a ride on the huglife bus when it left only as far as to new mexico. from there he would be making his way to san fransisco for the summer of love festival and flying back to hong kong from there. I told him it would be cool if he at least saw what he was contributing too. and I asked if he could get a flight from vancouver and we would drive him there the first week of sept. when he fucked up his stay at hillbillies he called me begging me for help in the middle of the night, there are posts here about this. I told him to try to make it to knoxville since we had a tribe bus there. he did so then I emailed jason and a few other kids I met down there to try to find him. jason found him and has...babysat him since. I have co-ordinated this bus building progect, though at no time took ownership of this bus always I have encouraged group ownership. the bus has been bought with three contributions thus far, alex and angela and my own. I have reciptes for more than a thousand in supplies alone, and reciptes for the purchase of the bus storage costs,. tax on the bus, and now the 500 dollar bill for a failed safety and an E test. as of now 3800 has been spent on the bus 1800 of it from my own pocket. still shy of the original 5000 we need. the bus is not yet ffinished though extremely close. k kids whats your say in this? lets keep this discussion as an open forum so as both to establish a precident (first 100% communal bus of the tribe) and as welll to avoid he said she said of forum drama. its all right here.
oh this is the two communications preceeding the first posted above PM from drew so I caused you to get kicked off hillbilles land alex? I was under the impression you wrote angela an email saying you heard a bunch of shit about me..... I was under the impression that I did everything I could to make sure you were safe when that did happen? did I not just promise to make sure I would get you to your departure flight? were you not originally supposed to be with the tribe for only a week in sept? so why would you go around saying I caused you problems? Im doing everything a i can to get to tennessee to make sure you get to BC called jay to arrange meeting times and I hear this shit? what the fuck man what the fuck? I really dont need this shit man it sounds like drama to me, Im not a fan alex pm to me by what means u bring me to canada? i even did not tell her u have family problem, u admit to me u sleep with random girl?? did u warn me about hillybilly, i just heard that u said we have one member visited that farm and the experience is nice!!! if i know u had conflicts with him, i won't go to here!!!! u posted and posted, that's u tried make be safe, so that i won't stay in there anymore!!!!how safe it was!!! so safe to the extent there was no car, no address, and then told me u should go to that town. my second PM feel free to tell her , Ive told her I told you since before you went there that hillbilly and I did not get along, I told you I have never met him and that yes ethan a member of the tribe had ben there before. I have every pm saved on here. when you went off to angela she told me that you were hearing shit from hillbilly, and I posted about it. from what I heard from hillbilly he was going to tell you to leave anyway, said you were lazy, all I know is that when I got home from work heard you were stuck I sent jason emails, I told you of the only thing I knew to make you safe, head to knoxville. the I pmed you a few days ago when I first started to worry if I were to make it to new mexico, then I pm'd back after I spoke with jason prommising you that I would get you here even if I had to pay for your air ticket. I have done nothing at all to cause you grief, I have done everything in my power to arrange shit for you, and I am repayed by you flapping your mouth off blaming me for your problems with hillbilly. I have every email you have sent me and I have sent you saved here. you cant blame shit on me. thanks alex, thanks alot! Ill do nothing more for you, you still have a stake in the tribe, you have paid for that. i will do nothing else for you. then what is posted above..thats the communication that took place
Hey Drew, This sounds like alot of drama ...that frankly you do not need.... I was always under the impression that this was going to be a cooperative bus tribe...and that who ever was able to put money towards it was going towards a collective fund...non returnable as it then became tribe money. My first medical hurdle was successful yesterday...I am home recovering for a few days...will keep you up to date. Hope this drama settles down and you can focus on the positive side of the bus tribe... keep your faith Drew!
I have no doubt it will blow over. though I am sorta curious abou this because weve never dealt with a communally owned bus. I agree that that was and is the idea. I do want to make sure the rest of the tribe comes to a consensus though. Im really glad you leaped your hurdle! that is a definate plus! the way the community deals with problems defines the community and what we take from it. so yeah im still getting the positive angle of this. sending you positive vibes and good luck with the rst of your race! peace drew
Hey Drew, Glad that you are still in a positive mode....and I have faith that the tribe will come together on this...and pave the way for a decision making process...you have some fine folks on this tribe. I get the results from this medical stuff on August 8th...so am hoping that I can still become part of this...but because of the uncertainity right now, will not make any commitments, as I know how disappointing it is when someone does not follow through.... Will keep you up to date though. Hugs to all
firstly, according to your promise, we are the owers of the bus, it is nothing related to tribe. it is nothing of other people's businese. if u don't do the exactly u have promised, u are cheater. on the other hand, u i have contributed to build huglife. now, i have contributed to build two buses. jason's arrangement with me is none of your businese and so do the so called tribe. now, everything is fucked up, i don't afraid of u. if u don't put my name on the bus, i will bring u to court, so your bus will go to die!!! even i lose in court, your bus trip is delay and delay
come to knoxville and talk with me, maybe we may find some solutions for now!!! otherwise, your bus trip is going to die!!! according to orginal plan, u have come to knoxville and join us, i prefer to discuss in there. hopefully, we may find solution.
according to your post here. i would be one of the owners, and now only u , me , angla have contributed to that. it is not tribe ownned bus but three person's private property. as the owner of the bus, u have to pay me for useage. your fucking tribe voting do nothing in court. since u have promised i will be the owner!!!
Well Alex from what i understand, you havent been booted from the tribe or anything. Now we have always said its what you can/ what you want to contribute that you should give, ppl have joined us with no monetary contribution and thats fine. (though dosent help progess ) And im sure if you cooled your drama jets a bit you would be a loved tribe member. Now as far as wanting to take us to court, we could, i suppose veiw your contribution as a deposit, which in most cases are understood to be none refunable. Also your threats to sue seem rather hollow, where would you sue us from? China? Im guessing thats where you sent the money from, and where this would most likely start. How much do you think an international dispute like this would cost you? much more then 1,000 dollars, infact im willing to wager my right to eat delicous morning sassauges on it
drew, u are living on this earth, u are under canadian government's rule. your rule may work on your bus, but not the entire world. if u don't give me back the entire sum of money, i will bring u to court. moreover, i have decided to withdraw u guys alternative living dream. although i have a lot of good experiences on huglife, how can i go to canada with u!!!!! for u don't care about your member's safety, for u even don't care about your family. i don't know what will u do to me in canada, u want to discuss those issues in here, i don't mind, for i won't continuous my road on hippy dream, but i think u still want act in the name of alternative living style and finding pussy to fuck.
woe what a way to wake up.. for the record,, me an blinkin are long since past our dissagreaments,, an the main reason alex was asked to leave is he was worthless around here and he could not quit criticizing everything abut the way we lived.him talkin shit was just the straw that broke the camels back. cant say we didnt warn ya again blinkin... hippie dream?? alex you dont have a fuckin clue what a hippy is. besides,, i thought your real motivation was to find a american wife so you could stay here . at least thats what we were told by you.(another reason why you were asked to leave) as far as yalls money dispute,,typical selfishness on alex's part, he aint gettin his way now he wants to take his ball an go home.. yeah thats real hippy like.. hippy dream?? dont make me laugh,, alex couldnt live the dream if he knew what it was... well just wanted to clarify our part in all this.. alex,, your wrong..
lol, i never told angla u told me something about drew, i used the term they in that message. u said can't say we did not warn u aganist drew, in fact, u never say any word about drew. i don't know why do they think u were brainwashing me in your farm. i never told anybody about your farm and even u after i kicked off, except jason the owner of huglife. when drew asked me what hippybilly looks like, i replied to him he is a hippy. u can say whatever u like, but i think u don't know i have paid 70 dollors for 'gas money' to leave your farm to bus station. yet, it was not u got money from me, it was that girl in your farm. i sincerely appreciate her and your daugther helped me to leave. when drew posted that in here, i realized to large extent, she is right, not u, u have said nothing about drew. i don't want to argue with u, here, i hope you and your family will realize dreams and ideals. and for your good example on family and organic farming, i think i may learn something despite i stayed in your farm for too short. for your disagreements between u and him, i have no idea what they are? but u may point out something, so that everyone wants to visit him may have more information. i decide to go home and don't come back again, i don't mind discuss here. i have spent good time with jason and huglife, and he never gets sick with me depsite we have lived for one month. so do the two new boys on the bus are not sick too. drew, come on, go to knoxville and we discuss face to face there, i don't think u will afraid of a weak chinese boy.
As far as i can see, all this shit started over a few farm chores you couldn't be arsed to complete. As mentioned before, you were going to be kicked off the farm by your own doings and no one elses anyway. Me opening my trap about what you told me you had been hearing about Drew and the tribe was just a way of speeding up the process in my opinion. When you were told to leave, Drew did everything to make sure you were safe somewhere else, did he not? Obviously you were put in a safe place and taken care of because you've been saying yourself on and off the forums how happy and carefree you are with Huglife. I'm still waiting for you to tell us how we're responsible for your so-called misery. I'm not sure what you were expecting when getting here, some kind of utopia? This is America, Alex, not fucking Wonderland. You've been following this whole THC thing for what, 2-3 years? One figures you would know shit happening and unhappy people are all expected situations. Alex, c'mon man, things are NOT as bad as you're making them sound. Personally i think you're just dwelling over the whole farm thing, i guess you felt betrayed, but it's time to get over it and move on. I mean let's get real, all that happened really, is your stay at the farm was shortened and you were introduced to bus life a little earlier than expected. Big fucking deal. If it's the 70 dollars of so-called gas money you had to pay (which honestly, i totally believe you that it wasn't used for gas but that's neither here nor there), that's getting you all pumped up, i'll fucking pay you back myself. I honestly don't understand why you're so unhappy and want your money back. You're still part of the tribe, the bus is still partially yours, you're still completely welcome on the bus whenever the heck your heart pleases, what's the problem? Obviously you've been hearing shit, we all know that, that's how this whole thing started, but how about you experience it for yourself first instead of taking other peoples words for it and setting an idea of what things are. That's just complete non sense to me. Everyone needs to fucking calm down here, this is ridiculous, all of this crap because of other peoples opinions about the tribe..that's just non sense. You're building a mountain out of nothing here...Why don't you meet drew, get on the canadian bus for a bit, and THEN you can say what horrible people we are and what bullshit lives we lead and then ask for your money back, how about that? Doesn't that seem a little more rational? man this is crazy.
oh, and just for the record Alright, that's fine Alex, whatever is going to help you sleep better at night. Yeah, i just pulled everything you told me out of my ass because i like to cause shit. Wonderful. Actually if that's the case, well i think i may have done everyone a favor, because it seems both HillBilly and Dilligaf had enough of your primadonna bullshit anyway, and in fact, if i remember correctly, they were 'giving you hygien problems'. I think you might just have to slip in a thank you for that! I hope eventually you'll come to your senses and take SOME form of fucking responsibility for what's happened, it's the least you could do.
the 70 bucks,, 25 went in the tank,, an the rest the sister that took him kept.. it was midnight when she took him,its 50 miles over a mountain to the bus station,how much you think a cab woulda cost? an she had to be at work at 7 am,which by the way,,she wound up gettin fired that day., an the only reason she took him was he was going to call 911,because "in hong kong police like taxi"... so if you ask me, 50 bucks for 3 hours of driving in the middle of the night was more than fair. as far as drew caring fr members safety,, WTF? its not his responsibility to care take the tribe, your all grown ups take care of yourself. its a good fuckin thing i quit drinkin,,cause id be on my way to knoxville to kick the ever lovin shit outta you alex..trust me, ive considered it all day. IMO you are a selfish crybaby , an you deserve whatever shit you get.you think bein a hippy is all fun an games,, youve read to many books.people bust there asses and sacrafice and deal with all kinds of shit to "live the hippy dream". ive had about enough of this shit,please leave me out of this, knoxville is only a 2 hour drive an ive had enough.. im done!!!! yall deal with him.
wow youve been told there alex seems as if we reached somesort of consensus about this! you are a part of the tribe, and you do have a right to ride on the bus. yeah if you think we have to pay you to use the bus? keep dreaming! I mean read the first page of this thread that clarifies everything. canadian law? wow good luck with that dude! I have been fighting babylon my whole life! and smarter people then you have tried to sue me so go ahead. you wont delay me 30 seconds from anything I choose to do! dont be afraid of me, Im harmless! karma is a bitch though! so what was that you said about suing me? man you really need to learn how to read! on the first page of this thread we mention the rulles. ... quote 1st page of the thread WE DO NOT INVOLVE BABYLON LAW!!!!! worse case scenerio your exciled off the bus where ever we are. we will never punish by violence. so your involving babylon eh? seems that we have to put your membership in the tribe up to a vote, since your set on breaking the rulles! and by the way you realise it will cost you at least 2500 dollars for a retainer alone before you GET A LAWYER!!!! like I said though, shoot away buddy! as for meeting you in knoxville. I was going to drive down and pick your dumbass up so I could get you to your return flight. I have a lot better shit to do with my time then to cater to a to a fucking oogle! If I had known you had that kinda money I wouldnt have taken 1 cent from you, the tribe typically looks down on rich ass babylonians. The last thing I have to say to you If you ever threaten to bring babylon on back or fucking anything to me again. k had a smoke, breathed a bit. edited mypost...was kinda angry after doing what I did today to get my truck legal and then coming home to this...... anyway you want your share? you can go up to marathon ontario and pick up the bus there, its sitting waiting for ya! so glad I do this , so freakin glad I do this