I knew Vietnam would come up. I've taken college level courses on Vietnam and I have come to a conclusion: Vietnam wasn't a just war (in my oppinion), but America didn't kill innocent people intentionally. Their intel suggested that the towns were hiding the enemy. The enemy ussually ended up being the people they were bombing (a lot of the times after they destroyed villages there were either enemies or supplies for the enemy). Many soldiers acted independantly of their orders and killed innocent civilians even when they were not supposed to. I don't celebrate the birthday of Nixon or anyone else who was in power during Vietnam. Nor am I trying to justify the killing of innocent people. But comparing HITLER to ANY US president (besides maybe those during the times of the Native American massacres) is rediculous. Also, don't put all your faith and knowledge in movies lol
I swear to God i would fuck up a nazi if i saw one anywhere. The same goes for the KKK and any other racist organization (especially violent ones). I may go as far as killing the fucker. I was watching a video on You Tube where a nazi group marched on MLK Jr.'s birthday and they met up with a peaceful march of african american people. The nazi's got violent and the police beat the shit out of them. It made me so happy. FYI incase no one knew yet (i think i said this but I'm not sure): I am Jewish (well by birth anyway) and my family is Jewish (well half of it). But this isn't the only reason I am very bias in my oppinion. I fucking hate racism (and anti-semitism) to the core. P.S. Before anyone brings up that BS arguement that all white people are inherintly racist, don't do it. I don't agree with it and it doesn't have anything to do with this arguement.
^^ i would not kill a nazi unless it was in self-defense, but i am glad to see that someone else here understands the idea of actively opposing nazis. they hate people for no other reason than how they were born. they are blind to the fact that these factors are lies created by people who benefit from a divided working class and dont matter. they hate blindly and act on it. i hate them for their actions, their random violence, and vision of humanity that is so ugly its hard to comprehend. i am not an aggresive or violent person, but nazis are, and like this poster said they attack innocent people. i feel strongly and think that if they act in mass they deserve a massive response and if a nazi gets bloodied up i dont care a bit.
hitler is a fuckin punkass monkey mother fucker, hes a wierdo he fucked his cousin or somethin, hes a terrible minded criminal, he fucked up the world more than u kno it. he took out 6 million jews, not to menchine, all the gays, blacks, disabled ppl he killed... he just fucked everything up and he doesnt deserve any credit for any positive he did, cuz the negative overides it all, its like he saved an ant from dying after he killed a city. thats how important he is..dudeeeee anybody with a head on theyre sholdiers should not agree or look up to anything hitler stands for. PERIOD.
um the 6 million killed in the holocaust included all blacks, gays, disabled, and retarded people killed during it
6 million jews, and hudreds of thousonds unreported, unidentified bodys of jews. besides that millions of other minorities, n disabled n stuff...
I don't think it does. I believe that every human being has a right to their own belief and how they wish to express it. I may not agree with their beliefs, but who am I to say it's wrong? The only circumstance to violence against Nazi's is when they infringe the rights of other people, or cause harm to other people. I still believe that if you were willing to kill a person over their beliefs, as you stated, then that certainly does reflect a violent SS member amidst the Holocaust. Can I ask if you would beat the shit out of a black/Jewish/et cetera racist, or do you feel they have a right to be racist? Racism doesn't only come from whites; it's a human deficiancy.
Also, Hitler did in fact do alot of good for Germany. Of course the negative's outweigh the positive's, but you would be blind and idiotic to cast the postives aside; it gives a totally biased opinion that shouldn't even be considered a valid opinion.
For fuck sake drop it already and go smoke some bud... isnt that what this forum is supposed to be based on anyways, not history lectures?
Im not sure man, whats the point in continuously debating shit that doesnt matter when its not gonna make a bit of difference who wins the argument?
It's not an argument, nor is it about who's right or wrong. It's just a debate to stimulate intelligence.:tongue:
If you wanna go stimulate yourself or others on hitler, do it in the right forum at least.. I come here to read about anything and everything marijuana - which this has nothing to do with.
If the racist black/jewish/etc. person was part of a hateful organization that has viciously killed people because of their race, then yes i would kick their ass too. Dont have time to quote people but: I agree it is a discussion to stimulate intelligence (and fume abotu how I hate nazi bastards). Also neither me nor Matthews started the forum, but we are discussing it, no matter what category it is under.
hmm, but what good would kicking their ass do? They're not going to change their mind because of a beating. If anything it would make them more set in their beliefs. Look at it this way, if you were in a world filled with racist people and you weren't racist, and some guy comes along and smashes your face in, would that change your views? That kind of violence serves no purpose at all. It's really silly to fight anyone based on their beliefs, IMHO.