Well I remember when CNN showed the video, they clarified that the film had not been verified as actual footage of the specific area, but had been told by Israeli pr that it demonstrated what may have been the situation. To me it was a delayed attempt to throw suspicion on the victims, and revise public opinion to support a deplorable action taken by the Israelis, and apologized for earlier. It was almost as though someone told them after their original apology that it wasn't reading well with public opinion and new spin had to been taken to regain Israeli sympathies.
gardener If it wasn't the footage of the specific area then we should ask were these houses empty at the time, plus Israel should shot the target only not the building. Masha'Allah ummm you know to make ppl hate Hezbollah as well, I have never seen ppl love a humanbeing like that!!!!! or a party? *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Dirk_Pitt my photos can be found in many other popular and famous sources and in the popular & well-known news channels (Nobody denied it (especially the other side ''Israel'')but your video the fighters denied it) ??? "cause israel is accusing them, Maybe I lost ya No I don't believe what I want, i.e. what I wish (unfairly) There is no lie in that comment in others like I didn't answer your q, I shouldn't write it there, you know you are replying in the quotes! I think this thread is (untidy) I have to scroll down several times and Go back to the previous pages, sometimes I really don't rememeber what we were talking about when you comment on a quote, By the way, once when I replied to other thread I didn't find my entir reply!!!!!but I edited it after I noticed that it was shortAnyway, back to the topic,Oh btw I said that the world won't end tomorrow,I'm not talking about that it could end for ya or anyone else,anyway forget it And I answered and clarified, they are blameless, insha'Allah regarding what, you really have to excuse me, This thread isn't tidy at all. I don't know if the question is the same one of that which I answered it later, if not, what is the question exactly. No I don't. It is irrlevant to what's going on in lebanon or different. I really don't know No, in the eyes of justice and truth *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Dirk_Pitt You lost me, when I said we should examine it from its four angles, don't take it literally, e.g. in your scenario you mentioned that he was firing at the criminals , yeah what's the other angle, that because they started to fire at him by declaring their war, got me. Did they? Did they say so? even if they did, I don't trust them, the lie when they say about them terrorist party! I'm sure they will go there or What if they didn't know about it? What shall I do, these are my comments on yours. I hope you got me I Already answered it more than three times I believe. COMPLETELY BLAMELESS I hope he got my point. What shall I do, off topic response will be the comment of an off topic reply. *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Dirk_pitt yeah No, I ment Israel should use weapons which achieve its goals, I already clarified that I mixed things up, I was posting in a hurry. Israel only, 'cause Israel know that Hezbollah don't have similar weapons, they chose the war, they know that their weapons can't guarantee them that it will hit their intended target, they can put their ppl in shelters or get them out of israel during this war temporarly, they have to face the consequences of their choice. *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Dirk_Pitt This isn't what's going on in Lebanon, and the most important point I is that the criminals started firing at Samer , his country ,brothers and sisters unjustly , and he doesn't want to turn his other cheek. The defenders already denied being there and you said that Israel said it was a mistake, BTW I don't remember regarding what they said it was a mistake =P Oh really , I ask ya Olmert, All my brothers and sisters who your soldiers killed them before Qana according to your instructions were all that mistakes as well? !?.... Try to make it less (damage the building only), choose the best angle to fire your evil rocket at the defender, choose the weapon which the results of its explosion don't expand widely. Of course, they should target those who are targeting them only. *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Again intelligence reports from major powers have proven to be faulty. Innocent people were killed and now they are being accused of their own destruction. I for one am tired of the spin. We have world powers that supposedly know what's going on until innocents are killed to meet their goals. Fuck Off! I don't buy your stories anymore.
Who's hiding behind who. I see Israel hiding behind the US and Tony Blair, I won't say Britain, because I don't think Tony speaks for most of the Brits.
You and the Project for a New American Century want the Israelis to fight this thing first, (That's why the US never came out for a end to the hostilities.) I am not sure what you wish to gain, but I am sure those that are invested know exactly. PNAC has been up front about backing off and letting Israel do what they want. Like I say I am a little person, I don't know what they are after, but I am sure they'll get it.
Dirk_Pitt The same goes to this singular incident, the criminals were looking for him to fire their rockets at him, they started. When you know other' past evil acts (not very old Two weeks ago or so) you can't trust them. Hahahaha why are y asking these questions, They thought so they SHOULD BE SURE. They have very excellent technology they can zoom in and check whether it was empty or not. Bless you too ^^ *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
Can the Israelis prove that missles were fired from that location? I would like to see definitive proof of this. If not innocent people/children were killed to gain a strategic location.
All my brothers and sisters who were killed so far by the Israeli soldiers before Qana were all that mistakes as well? if so, then they shouldn't rely on their agents or intelligence.*Peace and love* Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
Myself, when ppl says things in anger I don't take what they said seriously, and when ppl said bad things to me because they were angry I don't pay it attention 'cause they were angry and I forgive them even if they won't apologize, . I think man can speak or think properly when he concentrates, but in anger it is hard to do so, he will give the right answer when he is calm, when he has the time to think but pressure, anger bad situations may hinder him from giving his real view or to choose the right choice, emotions shouldn't make our decisions and opinions. Some Times emotions and brian are needed. Not just using the Brain. *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
Originally Posted by Dirk_Pitt If everyone in the world would try it, we may have no wars Yes, think of the poor and helpless people of southern Sudan, enslaved without provacation.
Hizbullah rockets cannot be fired from buildings From:ireland.com BY: Tom Clonan is The Irish Times security analyst. Monday, 31st July, 2006 Source Allah knows best*Peace and love* Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
Dirk Pitt I don't consciously lump you with anyone, but I question the motives of all that stand back and allow the murder of innocent lives, that includes Bush and Rice. These people have other motives besides those they make public. All the while innocents are killed in the name of defending Israel.
I already commented several times on these videos in details, And they are blameless,BTW: Some additions (I don't want to discuss it again, I already did, but just want to clarify) The scenario says: A crook takes a hostage. The cops shoot through the hostage in order to get the crook, killing the hostage. (of course this is not what's going on in Lebanon as I said and clarified + Hezbollah didn't take any hostage, if anyone would like to see it as hostage that's up to him, but it is isn't. hostage: person seized or held (unwillingly)as security for the fulfilment of a condition. Even if they fired their rocket near to some houses ( the Party Already denied being next to that house which was full of ppl in Qana as Israel claimed , So these houses in the vodeos were theyempty at the time? (of course I'm not looking for the answers but we have to ask these q) Did the party asked the ppl to leave but they didn't and it was the only best & safe place to fire their rockets at the time so the fighter compelled to go there, 3. if one or two from the party fired their rockets near houses (6 or 5 or so meters away) 4. Does the Party accept this and ordered him to do so! 5. Did that defender did so because he has no other chance so he broke the rules of the party, 6. When 2 or three fighter did so, it doesn't mean All the fighters are doing so Allah knows best *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
I do understand your point brother but as I said it was some new clarifications and additions, Masha'Allah ^^, Peace will come to everywhere, Allah promised so, but when Allah knows, anyway, here is a good report by Mitch Prothero - (Beirut based journalist) He writes:Source Jul. 28, 2006 I continue in other post...you know Message length *Peace and love* Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens