aww, sunshine did you get upset? You assume a lot, for all you know i could be some sort of authority on this topic. You really shouldn’t jump on conclusions so fast, I mean this would be like me assuming that you’re NOT some drugged-out, sperm gargling, foul-mouthed, cum dumpster who sucked cock for cheap h. “snorting it is the safest but best way to get the high u desire” READ YOUR OWN FUCKING BRAINLESS BABBLE BULLSHIT, DUMBASS. Again, smoking is the best, as in the most effective but safest way to use heroin, for the reasons I mentioned before. I know this from my own personal experience as well as report but also from the experiences of buddys and former friends who have been doing h for years now. Don’t you think that some heroin junkies whose lifes revolve around that fucken drug (and who for various reasons refuse to shoot it up) would do anything but to risk to waist even a tiny bit of the high? So why do they choose to smoke it then if it’s such a waist? If that’s not plausibly enough or still too hard for you to grasp - a lot of health organisations with solid reputation and credibility, refrerr to smoking to be the safest way to consume heroin (they’re not encouraging people to do this drug, though just trying to inform and protect people). Maybe if you would have smoked quality opiates instead of some bleach-laced dirt that fucked with your lousy cognition, you would know the difference too by now. Look butterball, for all I care you can injest feces into your veins, just don’t expect that your juveline drug escapades have any sort of validation whatsoever beyond something as fucking brilliant as: “uhh der well uhg ah knews some duUde wh0 said t0kIng fR1ed baNaNas pEEls is liek hEroin 0r sUm“. As for that 90% pure heroin quote, here you go. http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0175.html There’s more information out there, just google it yourself...that’s your job not mine! Now let me ask YOU something, how excactly do you know that 60% pure heroin is the upper limit in the whole fucking US? Have done some research on this or any other scientific experiments from the comfort of your own kitchen meth lab or is this just one of your expertises as an “experienced” drug user again? To everyone else, sorry for the foul language, when confronted with morons I tend to talk in a language that they can understand.
it's been said that the best heroin is from Asia...The Golden Triangle ya know, Colombia is supposed to have the best cocaine, by the way. Then again most of the heroin in the states is from South America anyway. hey Relayer, do you have any messengers?
well leah all i can say is ur incorrect ......i got 60% from relayers post but obviously u cant read well enough to see that i was agreeing with him....but its cool be angry ....i personally find it hard to get affended by people who dont wear deoderant and dont shave their nasty fucking armpits(read some of her 10 post people)
it says in your own fucking site 0-90% so do u really think the average is 90% I personally think it would be somewhere in the middle hmmm i dunno lets say around 50% or 60%........god i really was wrong huh??
The site u posted is based out of columbia as well ........do i really need to make my point here??? and since u love googling so much heres one for u http://www.heroinaddiction2.com/smoking-heroin.htm Never heard of someone getting brain damage from snorting out of a plastic straw......but hey if u think smoking is so much safer ......by all means be my guest.......one less idiotically spiteful **** in the world
I said it was the safest but best way to get the high he desired .......once again u **** read all my post carefully before u open ur disgusting probably non -teeth brushing nasty ass mouth......
Fucking A! Every time I think she can't possibly say something more retarded to make me laugh harder, she proves me wrong. By all means carry on, embarrass yourself a bit more. Well let’s see, for one I know Relayer made a vague assumption based on his personal experiences or on what he heard. This probably wasn’t meant to be taken literally but rather as statement made on a gut level. So I’ll try to articulate this as simple as I can: My question was, “How do YOU know that 60% pure heroin is the upper limit in the whole fucking US?” or even more simple “What made you agree with Relayer?”. Secondly, I really love your genius comebacks such as... I personally find it hard to be OFFENDED by people who can’t even spell to begin with. Maybe you should take that cock out of your mouth first and put that crack pipe down...would make it much easier to type I suppose. I’m almost flattered that you've actually been lurking around my posts in a desperate and feeble-minded attempt to throw some shit at me. Only you failed again, I actually wrote that I don’t really shave my legs and that I don’t use artificial scents but natural perfumes and oils, yet you’re the one who keeps insisting that I can’t read? I don’t know about you but people with good personal hygiene don’t need any perfumes. So please, try again. Cookie, you must confuse this with your incoherent pouty ramblings. Exactly what is fucked worked in your head? At which point did I or the quoted source claim such a thing? What you wrote: What I wrote (and what actually the site says): To which you replied: I repeat: "READ YOUR OWN FUCKING BRAINLESS BABBLE BULLSHIT, DUMBASS.” READ...READ IT...READ till you fucking understand because you’re obviously not getting anything. I find it hysterical that you constantly try to twist your own reading deficits against me. Uh yeah, please point it out to me because I fail to see where you’re getting at. You quoting that article is pretty much self-defeating, did you even read the whole thing? It didn’t refute that smoking heroin is still the safest way to consume this drug. Of course those quoted police officials are supposed to say that you shouldn’t use heroin at all, but if you still choose to do so....then inhaling is still the way to go. Quote: "Don't smoke heroin, period - but if you do, don't smoke it off aluminum," said Wayne Jeffrey, a police toxicologist. "There seems to be an interaction between some of the things heroin is cut with and the aluminum foil that causes a toxic reaction." Quote: "It's unusual that there is such a cluster that has occurred in this area in such a short period of time." Did you see that? They said it’s unusual that this has occurred in that area in such a short period of time, meaning that usually you don’t have these types of problems and this is probably a periodical occouring phenomenon, due to the fact that some sick, fucked up dope pushers lace their shit with trash that doesn’t work well with tin foil. There are probably reports out there on how people died like flies through heavy cramps and whatnot after they sniffed dirty h. So basically this hasn’t necessarily something to do with "technique" itself but with the kind of dope you ingest. Smoking is safer because as I stated a couple of times before, you have more control over the dosage, as in you don’t overdose that quick. http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/od_smoking.shtml Quote: "Snorting" Isn't As Safe As You Think People think snorting is safe, but it isn't. The problem is that it takes a long time to feel what you have snorted. So you can snort way too much before you even begin to feel the effects. The same goes for IM and SC injection. It's like setting a time bomb." "Why Smoking Is Safe... Smoking is the safest way to ingest heroin because you are always "up to date" with the effect of the drug. By smoking, you ingest a small amount of heroin. You feel the effect within 10 - 20 seconds (yes, faster than an IV injection). So under most circumstances, you will pass out before you can smoke enough to overdose."
was this supposed to be offending, funny or original, my dull-headed friend? I'm not the cum guzzling ex heroin junkie. see, Relayer I told you she's dumb like wood
Okay. I have a few more remarks before I am done with this topic. After I make my points, I will be adding Bellbottom to my ignore list. The reason that I am adding her to my ignore list is simply because I am tired of going back and forth about this. Also, Bellbottom decided to send me a private message that attempted to point out my stupidity, which obviously is a desperate attempt to put someone down to make themselves feel better, or right. Here we go... Number one: The original point that started this entire argument was the fact that Relayer pointed out that street herion, in general, is normally around 60% pure. I agreed with him because, as a standard, product is cut from dealer to dealer in order to increase profits. Apparantly, Bellbottom assumed that I meant that ALL STREEET HEROIN IN THE US IS 60% OR LESS. This is not the case. I do understand that in some rare cases, normally in the northeast (as 2ce pointed out to be a PHENOMENON), product is cut less, and the range of pure heroin does go up to 90% or so. I acknowlede this fact and I never insinuated otherwise. Why Bellbottom decided to misread my post, and single me out is not important. Number two: I stated that the best way to acheive Green-Hit's high from heroin is to snort it. I said this because it is the most efficient way to get your high, and maintain a nice long peak without needles being involved. When snorting heroin, you will feel the full effects of the drug for around 3-6 hours (estimated), but there is much less risk of becoming addicted to the drug than in the case of mainlining it. When you smoke heroin, you will acheive the high faster, but the peak will only last around 5-10 minutes (google erowid.com if you question my sources). In my opinion, 5-10 minute peak is a complete waste of an otherwise long lasting drug. Also, the simple fact that there ARE cases of dealers cutting their product with materials that are unsafe to smoke out of tin foil, makes the practice of smoking heroin COMPLETELY unsafe because unless you are a home chemist, you do NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE PRODUCT IS CUT WITH. Now, if you want to test your luck and smoke it out of tin foil, so be it, but as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no logical reason to chance it when you can more safely snort the product and acheive the same high and keep your buzz longer. Also, smoking anything off of tin foil is never safe. EVER. PERIOD. ITS FUCKING TIN FOIL FOR FUCKS SAKE. Number three: This will be short and to the point. Bellbottom stated that Relayer must have been coming up with his answers based on personal experiance, which is probobly true. This is also the case with myself. However, does Bellbottom really think that she is the ONLY PERSON ON THIS FORUM THAT HAS EVER RESEARCHED THIS DRUG?!?!?! Also, didn't she mention that alot of her knowledge of this drug came from HER FRIENDS PERSONAL EXPIRENCE?? Let me get this straight. She can accept the word of her junkie friends, but anything said by users/ex-users on this forum is not credible? This makes no sense to me at all. Finally, Number four: When I made a referance to Columbia having pure heroin (which I said sarcasticaly that she must have been getting her supply from), she insisted that Columbia is known for cocaine, and that Asia was more well known for heroin. I have no doubt in my mind that Asia has great heroin; I am sure that they do. However, does she really believe that because Columbia has great cocaine, that they do not have good heroin?? Also, the facts that she "googled" came from a Columbian-based website. WHERE IN THE BLUE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THEIR PRODUCT FROM??? More than likely it came from Columbia, NOT Asia. Anyway, I felt that I was being misunderstood by a simple minded person, that can take the words of junkies that she knows, but cannot even be open-minded enough to actually READ AND UNDERSTAND my posts. Now that I have made my points VERY clear, and have backed up the ones that might possibly have been needed to be verified, I withdraw myself from this topic. Thank you and good day. P.S. -- Bellbottom...Next time you decide to randomly come on to a forum and single someone out for no good reason, PLEASE read their posts in their entirety and ATTEMPT to understand them first. Also, for the sake of those around you, wash your ass, use deodarant, and shave your legs. Oils, perfumes, ect. and anti-persperants are completely different things. Again, Anti-perspirant is used to keep the body from sweating, perfume, oil, ect. does not. No matter how good your personal hygiene is, your body sweats. period. Sweating = smell. Just because your perfume masks your smell, does not mean that you do not smell to begin with. You indeed are a smelly bastard if you do not use deodarant or some sort of anti-perspirant. Now if you don't mind, please, FUCK OFF! Thank you. *waits for applause*
AAAAAAHAHAHA HAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAH *snort* WWAAAAAHAHHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA GGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Weren’t you the one who set out to verbally shrivel me? What’s wrong now, did you bite off more than you can chew? I really love how she’s playing off my own insults, and mannerisms, i.e.: "is a desperate attempt to", "point out" "Here we go...” etc. GET YOUR OW FUCKING MATERIAL YOU BLASTING ASS FUCK! "attempted to point out my stupidity," Yeah, I sent you that one line, was that too much for fragile little mind? Honestly, I don’t think I have to point that one out, you’re doing a great job exposing the dumbass that you are yourself. Translation of your paragraph above: I understand that Bellbottomfaerie is superior to me, I’m humilated and disarmened. I’m scared and I can’t say anything back this why I choose to come up with laughable excuses. I’ll try to address her bullshit because this is fun to me and there’s nothing else to do right now. FALSE, because, "the original point that started this" is the fact that you obviously don’t have a fucking clue what you’re talking about, when you post things like:"snorting heroin is the best but safest way", which I’ve proven wrong several times already. Also, the correct quote of Relayer is: "heroin is never pure, actually its usually half to 60% at best.", to which you agreed, "so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best". Now you’re saying that: "street herion, in general, is normally around 60% pure". Did you see those marked words? I did this for a reason you know...there is difference between "60% at best" - meaning it doesn’t get any better – and "normally around 60%" – meaning there’s still better stuff out there but the average is 60%-. You’re constantly contradicting yourself, even you can’t be THAT dense, so I’m guessing you’re doing this on purpose in a helpless attempt to save your neck. Actually yes, this is exactly what you meant when you wrote: "so relayer i think ur right about it being only 60 % at best". You (living NC) are agreeing with someone from Philly on how the top-notch is 60%. Get it? I can't believe I'm explaining your own nonsense. haha BULLSHIT, because that’s what you’re saying now that your punk ass got busted. What you typed before: [QUOT=LoriBaby]and i also like to know where the fuck u r getting 90% pure heroin ..[/QUOTE] Nice try to twist your own words though. I call BULLSHIT again! I’d really like to know from where you got the idea that the peak of inhaled heroin will last for only 5-10 minutes? I’ve been on that site and I couldn’t find anything, are you sure you aren’t confusing this with crack cocaine or freebase? I’m guessing you’re making that up too or you deliberately misunderstand again what has been written - in an attempt to score. I think I can say this with some accurancy, since you probably would have never let that one slip by not posting the direct link, so that you could prove me wrong. No matter how, from my own experience and from others as well, the high of smoked heroin lasts indeed for a couple of hours. If that’s not evindence enough, you still haven’t answered me why even junkies who dedicated their lifes to that drug, choose TO FUCKING SMOKE HEROIN IF IT’S SUCH A WAIST? Even if we pretend that you’re right for a second and assume that the peak is rather short-lived compared to the one you get from snorting it. Even if that would be the case, I’d still say smoking is the better choice. Wanna know how I know? Well, does it ever occur to you that (since you finally kind of admitted that smoking will get you high faster and therefore you need less and would have more control over the dosage) you could spare some of the smack? As in, since you need less of the same amount you could start with inhaling some of it and after a while when you’re beginning to come down, you could smoke a bit more...in a way that you can have both, control and decent high over the same period of time if not longer. You really grasp at straws, don’t you? Let me start off by stating that USING HEROIN AT ALL IS COMPLETELY UNSAFE TO BEGIN WITH!!!! Or any other hard drug from the streets for that matter. Not only will you become addicted and destroy your life but there’s always the risk of a sudden death through an overdose or horrible laced stuff. Those reported cases in the article most likely got that heroin from an shady street corner dealer. The key is not buy your dope from an anonymous flakey source of the streets.Those things may happen, however, thats not the point...it’s not common. You’re trying to make it sound as if snorting heroin is free from dangers which simply isn’t true. These type of things could be reported about almost every drug and all their forms of usage. Every time you buy pills at a rave you’re basically playing russian roulette. Following your logic, people shouldn’t really be snorting because you always risk to fuck up your nostrils (which you actually do, by the way), besides it could be cut with any kind of toxic shit. What about not inhaling out of tin foil then, if you’re that concerned? What’s with smoking it through an pipe or something else instead? HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND? Not true. God knows how many people smoke any kind of drug off of tin foil every day. I know we did smoke a lot of grass out of aluminum foil or cans when there wasn’t a bong around and look at me now, I’m giving you lectures on your favorite drug (or so it seems) on a message boad. I mean when it comes to drug usage, what’s healthy anyway? Snorting any kind of shit through your nose isn’t safe or healthy, SMOKING FUCKING CIGARETTES IS HEALTHY. Well at least I know you didn’t. As for my question towards you, that’s what it was all about. To find out if the things you claim are solely based on opinion or not...but I think I know the answer now. Hold on, aren’t you a recovering junkie? Read again: Which part of that didn’t you understand? When did i say that? I’m beginning to believe that you have a bad habit of purposely misreading things and putting words into people’s mouths when being cornered and publicy shattered. Good job! Try again and note the marked parts this time: Yeah, I do "google" facts, you make sound as if there’s anything wrong with that. Internet research has become a respected and credible source not only for journalists but even in the scientific world. I like how I can’t make any sense out of the rest of your quote. I’m really trying to understand but for some reason I can’t.I’m scared to think that you’re actually confusing a health related section of the Columbia University homepage with the South American country "Colombia". [font="]Please anyone tell me that’s not what she’s saying. [/font] Look five paragraphs above....uhh not wait seven. Hmm, let’s see the purpose of an online message board is to actually write back, randomly or not. I’d say I did read your comments (even though it made my brain hurt) but if you don’t want people to reply to your inane bullshit, then don’t post. It’s simple as that. If I see you posting something dumb, I’ll reply. I don’t want to treat you different than anyone else. Good god, I don’t even need to make fun of you. You go when I tell you to leave you miserable worm. I got bored fucking with your defective mind, it was fun till it lasted. Now piss off and snort another line or whatever it is that you do. DESTROYED
Just so everyone knows it really shouldnt take anyone (bellbottom) 45 minutes to modify a post......quite sad if u ask me....
AHAHA I thought you were ignoring me? and now you're basically saying that you've been observing my activities? hahah 45 min. my ass. edited: and all of the sudden she signed out.
All I was saying is that H is usually 60 % pure at most. Usually. And Bellbottom, sorry but Lori would kick your ass.
Peace the fuck out, this isnt what this site should be about, why so much fighting about a little truly insignificant substance in the universe? Go smoke a j or something, you're both sounding like strung out junkies to me, and im hoping you guys aren't.
once again relayer thanks.......and uh it kind of seems like shes all up on ya dick or something......"relayer do u have uh aol so u can cyber Fuck me" what a twat
No more personal attacks will be tolerated on this thread. Lori, I KNOW you know what you are talking about, I also know you were defending yourself, so I am not gonna bother you. I don't blame you for defending yourself, but let's try to keep it on topic. Okay? Try to keep it a little nicer, Okay? Just ignore it, or defend yourself without the nastiness. People like bellbottom usually hang themselves if given enough rope. She's banned.
thank you very much, Maggie.....i really wasnt trying to start anything and i have placed her on my ignore list as of yesterday.....im sorry about the language as well.....i guess i just let people get under my skin sometimes u know?
