He fucking won!

Yes, who needs stability when we can have people dying in the streets.

Really, wake up. You can't fix the world with magic tricks, and it's a shame you buy into the false dilemma of freedom v. compassion.

We can have a thriving economy that rewards innovation, hard work, and the right to the fruits of one's labor. And we can do it while cushioning the blows of systemic failure, and protecting the least among us.

 

Not just black people. Almost every section of the population has slavery in their ancestry. Irish were enslaved for 100s of years. There are many people that can lay a more significant claim to slavery affecting their family tree than blacks.

 

People would rather sit on welfare than work in McDonalds. They are hiring ALL the time. I have seen hundreds of people that have walked PAST help wanted signs to stand in line for welfare. Some people need and deserve help. I would estimate that would be around 10% of the people that rape this country for welfare. I will provide for my family no matter what WITHOUT welfare. I have been poor. I have worked the shittiest, sweatiest jobs you could possibly imagine to feed my family. I worked HARD. If we didnt give handouts, people would be forced to put out a little effort. They wouldnt starve, they would survive on their own merits like us PRODUCTIVE citizens.

 

One more point. Was it a fair election when the military votes dont count? Do servicemen deserve to make a choice?

 

Maybe the reason they would rather not work at McDonald's is the lack of union representation for workers and the shitty wage.

The McDonald's business model is predicated on abusive labor practices and corn subsidies.

I'd rather be on welfare than work at McDonald's too.

Get real. If your simplistic notions could really save the world, the world would jump on it. The truth is that things are more complicated.

 

No because they're murderers. Fuck Obama, I hope someone shoots that nazi fuck

 

You can't devalue one group of peoples tragedies just because maybe another group of peoples tragedies are more tragic. Thats just fucked up and your statement makes you sound racist. It's a shame that ANYONE had to go through slavery, it's a shame that some people STILL DO. It's perfectly acceptable for ANYONE marked by ANY tragedy to mourn about it. And nobody should ever say, shut the fuck up and stop bitching, my people went through shit too.

I don't have ANY answers to all of the fucked up problems going on in todays society which are mainly brought on by capitalism and a consumerist viewpoint which is currently killing the earth, which if you don't know IS YOUR ORIGINAL MOTHER. You wouldn't take all of your mothers blood to make a quick buck, why the fuck would you diminish all of the earths resources to do so.

In a capitalist society there's a hard core concrete class system which can be looked at as a pyramid. The people on the top take advantage of people on every single level below them, so the people on the very bottom get taken advantage of the most. So in a capitalist society there is a STRONG NEED for programs which help the people on the bottom survive. I don't give a fuck if the people on the top are smarter and more hard working, they still got there on the backs of everyone below them, and they still live a life of DECADENCE while people at the VERY BOTTOM strive to make enough money to get basic needs like food, clothing and shelter.

So what if they're stupid and lazy, they're people. It wouldn't take much to just give them basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter so they don't fucking die and suffer, while the people on the top have 15 fucking houses and 20 cars and giant TVs and a WHOLE TON OF BULLSHIT WHICH THEY PROBABLY DON'T USE OR TOUCH EVEN HALF OR A QUARTER OF.

This is what happens in a capitalist society. I don't have an answer of whats better, but I know for damn sure that as long as we're going to continue capitalism people on the bottom will inevitably suffer because thats the only way it works. McDonalds can't make money without a huge army of minimum wage employees. The stupid people are on the bottom because they're stupid, sure, but that's no reason to disregard their importance to society. Without them you wouldn't have any of your precious consumer goods to fill your giant houses with.

 

A friend called me last night for an election watch party. It was at a bar and there was a mix of democrats and republicans, yet no matter what their political affiliation everyone was cheering when Obama reached 294 electoral votes. It was amazing I could feel everyone in the bar being proud to be American and even some people who weren't americans were cheering. No one is perfect but I do feel like this presidency will be different from the rest aside from the obvious .

 

I just read "I would rather feed off the system than put in an honest day's work, because it isn't up to MY standards."

EXACTLY the attitude that is/has been ruining the fabric of this nation. Thank you for the example! :cheers2:

 

White on black racism is part of our national narrative.

only a fool would be blind to that.

take off your fucking blinders.

 

I do just fine, thank you, and I have never taken a government handout.

At the same time, I understand the rational need for a social safety net. Not surprising you would like to put me in the box you use as a substitute for rational thought. I will be glad to help out if you are dying in the street, because I am a human being with compassion. I would do it even as you spat on me.

 

That is exactly what has happened for the last 40 years. The black people screamed so loud about slavery, that the others that endured it got swept under the rug. Everyone thinks blacks need extra help because of it.

I believe in EQUAL rights. NO ONE gets extra help because pretty much everyone has slavery in their past. Make everything equal, the intelligent, hard working people will rise to the top without government intervention!

And you are saying that I got where I am by taking advantage of people? Nice generalization. You preach compassion, but only apply it where you see fit.

 

I am glad to help someone in need.

I give more to charity than most, and would give a lot more if I were allowed to keep the money I earn.

I am NOT happy that I am FORCED to donate money that goes mostly to those that dont need or deserve it!

 

Of course, you are blind to black on white racism. The kind that I personally encounter daily. I have gotten guns pulled on me numerous times BECAUSE I AM WHITE....NO OTHER REASON. But that's fine, let's not upset the black people. When did blackness become godliness??

 

masterintx99 don't you realize that not everyone can climb higher then being a cashier at where ever the fuck. But without that cashier and the millions of other cashiers the fuckers at the top wouldn't be making any money.

The people at the top ABUSE those millions of cashiers that can't comprehend doing more. And I'm willing to bet that the blame in WHY they can't rise above that has more to do with horrible education and other societal problems holding them down then it does with them actually lacking the intelligence to do so.

And what do you think we should do about people who are physically or mentally UNABLE to work in order to make a living for themself. If we get rid of ALL government handouts who will look after them, surely you don't think handicapped people should be left to the wolves because of natural selection in a society in which has MORE then enough ability to allow that to NOT happen?

 

Charities!!!

Ever heard of them?

I would voluntarily give a lot of $$$ to an organization that will hepl the NEEDY, and do it efficiently.

Government programs do neither.

 

I don't even know you. I'm saying that THAT is how the system works, in fact THAT is how the system is designed. It is designed that a specific class of people will always reside in poverty, because it doesn't work any other way. You can't have these giant corporations manufacturing all of these goods and services without the people on the bottom doing the dirty work.

The people on the VERY BOTTOM get shit on the most.

You're probably the type of person that would send 100 innocent people to jail just to capture 5 or 10 criminals.

Well I'm the type of person that would rather free 100 criminals then put one innocent person in jail.

Same goes for the people on the bottom. I'd rather help out one person who genuinely needs it and help 100 that don't, then not help any of them.

 

I support this message you made, my ancestors were kidnapped my Romans & were force to kill each other for there masters entertainment. That's hell of a lot worse than plowing a field.

 

I'm not blind to our history of indentured servitude, black on white racism, or anything else you would like to pretend about me.

History has been made, and we are on the way to healing our racial wounds. We did not need to elect a president from each abused race, or a three headed black/white/irish president to do it.

The symbol we chose is a symbol of healing, joy, and renewal. I don't know that it will fix the persecution that is holding you back in life, but it is a powerful symbol nonetheless.

Will it be powerful enough for you to get your head out of your ass?

 

The difference is that with black people in America you only have to go back about 50 years to get to the oppression. The aftermath of ALL of it still exists in American society to this DAY.

It's no wonder current black culture is in such a horrible way. There have only been about two generations of black Americans that have gotten to be truely free. If your father was shat upon your whole life, he'll probably shit on you, and you'll probably shit on your kids.

Violence among blacks can be traced back to the fact that just 50 years ago, most black people were very pissed off and angry and for a GOOD reason, and I'm sure A LOT of them didn't know how to focus that anger and took it out on everyone around them. Black people are STILL TO THIS DAY FEELING THE AFTERMATH THATS THE DIFFERENCE. Shit that happened 200 300 400 500 600 years ago people have had time to mourn over and get over. We're talking about 50 years ago that there was still HARDCORE RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY.