Have You Noticed......

The maturity of adults died with people watching an average of 7 hours of shit-box per day. It's pretty much gone now. Everyone shows exaggerated, child-like behavior. So much so, that it's the norm. Like they say, when the fetish becomes the norm, the norm. becomes the fetish, you know? It's so normal to be that way now that you almost become accustomed to seeing and being disposed to it, until, ofcourse, you meet a mature adult, the way an adult is supposed to be, atleast 'supposed' to in my mind. What I believe to be what an adult should be.

 

MusicMan, if only others could read your words. I have friends who've smoked pot, and are intelligant people, who i can stand to be around with for a long time. then i have another group a friend,s who i havent been hanging out with as much anymore in the past few months, jsut becaus ei cannot stand the way they act, whether its dressing a certain way, because magazines and TV tells them to, rather then,dressing in their own personal taste, or, acting tootally different from what they totally want to act like, because, they think its how they should be seen by everyone else. that may have been confusing for some.

After smoking alot of pot this summer, I've looked back, and realized, back in the dya, i used to be, what these days, i really don't like anymore. Conforming to a certain way, just to gain approval, whereas now, i mostly don't give a shit anymore. But not really apathetic, but really just not caring about what most people think of me anymore.

I kinda have another question for you, has anyone ever been stoned, either at a get together or party, while with a group of friends, who have never smoked pot, and really only know, from the exagerations on TV, what its like, acutally come up to you, and try to "trip you ot" with flashey colours, and other typical, stupid, steroetypes, and really you just want to tell them to shut the fuck up? I'd walk up to some of these people, even sober, and tryto exaplin to them some of my views, but i wouldn't even bother explaining it, because, they'll jsut be "oh, thats just stupid stoner talk", or somehting along those lines. Ok, it wasn't really a question, but has anyone ever been in that situation?... ok THATS the question.

 

man so well said especially by the 14 year old, i think like that all the time sober too. like at the mall, its like the car is the fly the people are the maggots and the mall is the rotting corpse, and people are just mindless in eating up all the resources available to them and taking advantage of people. Wow man that was pretty deep. But yeah thats the way i see it to, like musicman due and 14 year old.

 

Yes, I've had that happen to me several times before back when I hung out with idiots. lol You grow out of your old friends at some point, and that can be a really hard experience, because it's strange to break all that off with them.

While Marijuana is an hallucinogen, even on the best primo, something like someone throwing thier hands in your face isn't going to trip you out, it might freak you out, but that's about it. A lot of people who haven't used Marijuana embellish it's effects, which is totally annoying. They act as though it's L.S.D. or some other type of hardcore hallucinogenic psychedelic. That's especially how you can tell who's faking a Marijuana story when they tell you something like that. "Man, getting high was great, shit started coming alive and walking around the room and shit". The most annoying guys are the guys who smoke pot simply because they saw it on a movie like Half Baked or Fear and Loathing, and they think that it's a drug to smoke so that you can be a fuckin' retard who eats everything in the house and is over-all an annoying individual. Sure, it's okay to get the munchies and giggle a bit, but there's a difference between that and some dude obviously trying to propagate that whole "stoner" mentality. You're not Jeff Spiccoli (okay, I'm old, lol ) and if you want to try to be, do it around someone other than me.

 

like who are u refering this to

 

I'm not directing it at any one individual, just using it facetiously. I'm directing it at people who act like the friends I used to have a very long time ago who would smoke not to get high, or to see the world in a different way, but simply because they felt the need to be Thurgood and Kenny, and felt the need to tell everyone and anyone who would listen that they smoke up.

 

I have been reading the posts on this thread with utter fascination. About two years ago I returned to a town that I'd been gone from for roughly a decade. It was actually very depressing to see that alot of my old friends really hadn't changed at all. There was so much that I wanted to share with them and relate with them but just couldn't. It wasn't for lack of trying. I guess what did it finally was the last time I went over to an old friends house. He's married now and has two kids but he was pacing around outside all big eyed and kept telling me how great it was that someone was coming over with some acid. They were going to hang out in his one bedroom with wife kids and all and take acid. Up until that point I was really just trying to maybe help him out but that was it. Since then it's just been a complete seperation from the smoking etc.. crowd here. Occasionally I bump into somone I used to know and it's always the same old rhetoric and that sort of weird look behind the eyes. It wouldn't make a difference if it was weed, acid, or even whiskey as long as they were gettin' fugged up. I've just resorted to telling them that I don't smoke anymore. Of course now I'm the enemy but I'm quite content to be high on my own these days rather than face that type of psychic energy ( or lack of). I've only met a few new people that I'd probably smoke with again and I only smoke in large groups or parties now if I'm with someone I really trust or I've got a way out and a way home. It's just not worth it to settle. The mind and the spirit are worth much more than that. So, yep. It's awesome that this thread took this direction. More people should talk about their experiences like this.

 

ive found im a bit different to many here. Before i tried drugs, i hates stupid people and hated being around them. As soon as kids intelligence was actually compared, i didnt like stupid people.
Since ive startedsmoking weed tho, whicn has led me tohang out more with stupider people ive realised that i only hate -really- stupid people. now, theres still heaps of really stupid people, but ive felt that weed has let me see human nature more, like all you guys have said. only, what ive seen has made me understand others more, and i see that people can be nice people even if theyre stupid. Ive been more open to people i used to hate.

anywya i still hate dumb people. like, not academically dumb. i know very well that academic marks mean absolute bollocks to measure someones real intelligence.

so before weed i had a high threshhold of hatred to dumb people, but now ive become more accepting. ive learnt that to get along in life you have to accept that most people are really stupid, and jsut use it to your advantage.

 

Stupid people can be nice, but there's just more needed for friendship, atleast to me. There's an extent to which someone can be stupid and still be a possibility as a friend. I can't hang out with someone who can't become deep and who is literally too stupid to speak philosophically on any level. I used to have friends who couldn't. I'd start talking about an all-encompassing monolith, or simply the whole "why are we here" thing, and they just didn't care or couldn't really discuss it. That becomes pretty lame. I'm sure I seem shallow with that, but I simply can't hang out with people who are like that. If all they can talk about is an intellectually void movie and a handful of shitty bands, and getting high or drunk, I just can't be around them.

 

I hate it when i am high and i see old/current teachers around town. They are always so chatty and full of questions about how i am doing etc. Its so hard to talk to them and make it sound like i am sober.

 

I have also noticed that my circle of friends has changed somewhat to include people who more are like me-- people who love to exercise and expand their minds, who are artistic, creative souls-- but in day to day life I find I can see each and every soul I come into contact with as valuable... I don't know if its pot or maturity-- I lean towards the idea that pot accerlerated the insights that brought on a certain type of maturity-- but as a whole I seem to have become much more accepting of "stupidness" in people as I can now view them as being somewhat -stuck- in their human growth. Sometimes I feel overwhelmed because I feel so compelled to show love to everyone and there's so many needy people around that I can start to feel drained... that's when more pot and my great "inner circle" of pals fill me back up!

Yay for this thread and hurray for cannabis... surely it won't be long before we won't be breaking the law...

 

I hear you on that. My close friends fall into two camps: either they don't care about getting philisophical and would just rather watch American Idol or sports, or they fall back on the "god did it" cop-out and still don't really think about it. The only people that care to discuss this stuff is my family (mostly just my mom and sister) and people online like in this forum.

So yeah, the shallowness can really be irritating. But like StonerBill said, it's not like I abandon these people (most people ARE like this). I still have a good time with my friends, but I can't stay on that shallower level all the time. When they get going about how they want to be rich and have cars and a plane and a boat and all this shit (one friend in particular does this a lot), I just get really irritated. I used to keep quiet, but lately I simply can't, I call him out on it and tell him that's bullshit and shallow, money isn't everything, and tell him to think about the expense of hoarding all that money, and who needs 10 cars anyways? He is the classic consumerist American, hellbent on getting rich. At times this becomes incredibly annoying. What's funny is that this guy is my closest friend, known him forever and even with all this, we get along really well. He just gets annoying when he goes on about his future riches...

 

Yeah, but if someone simply doesn't think the same way I do, a friendship is gone. I mean, what else is there? Walking around the city with someone who doesn't get you at all? It just doesn't work for me.

 

I know what you mean, but, i mean, i find it annoying, when, people, who don't smoke pot, and/or never have, assume i will "trip out" or think im fascinated with pretty colours and hallucinate, but im not, and they kind of tease me, about being stoned, but not directly, while i am stoned. I still talk to these people at school, and hang out with them a bit, but someitmes, i can get kind of bothered being around them too much, because its like a overload of naive people, who tend to be clsoed minded, whether its about drugs, music, philosophy, or just about anything at all. My closer circle of firends i can talk about anything, which is great, because then i can communicate my thoughts better, and here other views aswell, rather then, being ingored, or get a silly responce like "oh yeah", and they turn away.

 

Well, I've known him since I was 3, we know each other pretty damn well. That's not a friendship I'm just going to throw away because of different life views. There's more to me than "stoner/hippie" and there's more to him than "catholic/consumer." He's not always shallow, and I'm not always deep...usually, like most people, we're sorta inbetween most of the time. We can still relate to one another, otherwise, yeah, the friendship would be dead.

Plus, it's good to have an informed opposite viewpoint for some things. Like, he's conservative, and I'm liberal, and we're both pretty well informed on it. So we can exchange ideas and keep one another in check, so to speak.

 

A well-informed conservative? I think that's an oxy-moron.

Honestly, though... if you don't think on the same plane, there's no way you can be friends. I don't just mean political idealogy, I mean world views, complete, all-encompassing world views. You have to see things the same way, and then reason the same way once you've seen them for the relationship to be a truely deep and meaningful one. Liking the same movies and the same bands just simply isn't enough. Being able to argue politics with him simply isn't enough. You both have to literally be on the same level to have it really and truely work. I've come to realize that it's better not to try to hang on to a bunch of "friendships" that are incredibly shallow, simply because you don't want to feel like you're too picky. Being picky, over time, will yield good results.

 

Man, I hate to argue with you over this, but clearly you're wrong, because even though we're pretty different, he's my closest friend.

I don't think you have to be thinking about things in the same exact way to be friends. I'm confortable with the differences I have with my friends, that's what makes a friendship interesting. Like they say, variety is the spice of life. It's not good to just surround yourself with people who agree with you, that'd be boring.

I mean, most of the differences you're going to have with someone are far less than the similarities. We're all human, so that is a major connection we share with everyone. If you can see past the differences, there are good friendships everywhere, just waiting to be found.

 

many of my friends piss me off sometimes. i still cant believe one of them hast tried pot yet. and another who speaks ill of said plant then i find out hes getting high with his brother. sigh, sometimes you just cant win. tho' variety is the spice of life, take a look at herb. heh heh, excuse the one track mind i think im gonna go get high now.