Have you ever been raped?

cerebus, thank you first oiff for the thoughtful post but i gotta comment on it
in 1 breath your saying sometimes rape is about sex & about a woman provoking a man.. then you admit to your rape.. at 8..& your male
how exactly did you provoke it?

noneed to answer

as for the other posts before that the sister scared for her freind at school & afraid to go anywhere because of the statistics

statisticaly if your family or freinds hadnt raped ya by early 20's your chances drop..
no woman..no..no person..should ever have to feel the fear you feel
but you cannot let that fer of what might happen prevent you from living..
living in fear isnt truly living..just goon doin what u do..honnestly..nothing youd change in your actions really has much affect on changing your chances..it has very very little to do with anything you do & all about ssholes who have no self control....or more accurately..seek to feel control by forcing theyre will on others..


& i also agree with what was said that strict families often do put the kids in greatter danger
theres a huge difference between being overprotective & trying to shelter a child from the ugliness in life (which they'll always try toi escape the overbearring protectiveness & seek out some dangerouse situations as a rebelios act) & being communucalitive ..explaining the dangers, & how best to avoid them, or deal with them if u cant avoid them..
a sheltered kid that thinks only rapes happen to chicks in miniskirts are more likely to gooff intothe woods witjh strangers if they thought that way..

 

Hes a little boy...and thats why i didnt really tear him apart....I think it opened his eyes just a little.

 

God thanks for the support! I was going to apolagize for acting that way but im glad i didnt, i voiced my opinion and Eechi in ways agreed with me. Some people increase their risks of getting raped, and increasing those risks are THEIR OWN FAULT! I dont care what you say but they are. No one forces them to go to dodgey parties, get high in the woods with someone they dont know or walk down dark alleys alone. What they do is their choice, and it is their fault for putting themselves in that increased risk.

Idiots like PsyGrunge cant allow people to voice their opinion if he doesnt agree with it, and a lot of other people on this forum do as well. Name calling a 15 year old over the internet when you are much older is pathetic, i wouldnt be suprised if u were a college drop out PsyGrunge, people like you never make it very far in life. I posted that Image because i couldnt be bothered to argue, i have better things to do with my time so i'll just give you that friendly owl picture when you make a stupid insult like "dick head", that must be said thousands of times a day, say something original!
Also erzebet1961, you didnt pick on me but you made out like i had "cruely misjudged" someone, or however you said it. Uh yea thats something friends say to eachother :$

Im not saying rape is always the females fault for not being careful, for instance a girl was raped in a public toilet (i think it was in Sainsburys) That wasnt her fault at all, no one would get a friend to guard the door in a well-lit food supermarket. But other cases like the one where she got high in the woods with someone she hardly knows, that was her fault for being so careless. The act of rape wasnt her fault, but allowing herself to that increased possibility of getting raped was her fault. Thats my opinion, so feel free to start flaming if you dont agree, all you will get is the snowy owl because i dont give a shit, a lot of the guys here are just sexist because they feel that the female is always right, its not true.

 

Hi baby....

 

Well..you know my views..so Im going to bail...be good !!!!!

 

You're not reading what i actually wrote. I even capitalised the words for you for added emphasis. SOME, ok? GENERALISATION, yes? You can't throw all rapists into one convenient label, the world does not work that way, it's far more complex. Just like you cannot throw all women into a "defenseless helpless victim" label.
I never provoked my rape, although at the time i knew i shouldn't be going off with strangers. What i am saying is that some rapes CAN be provoked, do you see the difference? I'm quite sure i don't have to define the word "sometimes" for you. Women can lead men on, whether you like to admit that or not. I think that in many ways a women deliberately and willfully sexually provoking a man is very much a sort of rape, mentally. I think mental torture can be as bad as physical torture, and that women aren't always entirely innocent, or able to do whatever they want without consequence. The same applies to men too of course, but noone seems to have mentioned that man can be raped too.

I'm quite happy to answer thanks.

I wouldn't disagree with any of that.

 

ok i hear what your saying ez but i gotta agree & disagree
i live in a world where fuck ya can crawlinto a tent alone with random strangers & get high as hell & fall asleep next to someone ya knew for 5 minutes are u saying its a girls fault if shes innocent & doesnt see every guy as a potential attacker?
wouldnt you like it if someday a girl trusts you just cause u have a nice smile?
cant u see how its not the girl risking trusting someone thats the problem..its always the rapist not being trusytworthy

if the girl walked intothe woods with say me..&got stoned & had a good time &nothing bad happened..was she still asking to be raped?

would u ever like to go for a midnight walk on a beach with a girl? or would u wzant every single goirl alive to alwayshave in the backof her mind..if i spend 1 minute alone with him he may rape me

the problem never is a woman taking a risk since every momment in life is taking the same risk
the problem is that rape ever even happens..& all blame..all falls entirely on the shoulders of the rapist
women should be able to trust..to feel safe at parties..to be safe to just go for a walk with someone freindly..

think about that next time ya ask a female freind if she wants to go somewhere secluded to smke a joint..
doureally want her thinking bout upossibly raping her? douwant her to refuse to be near u just in case?

 

Of course men can be raped...I worry for my sons just as much as I worry for my daughters, I think that when people hear the word rape, a female victim comes to mind is all !!

 

1. I doubt an innocent girl would risk getting high with a bunch of guys she doesnt know.

2. I would be flattered if a girl trusted me just because of my smile, but then she wouldnt meet me down a dark alley, so it wouldnt make her stupid for taking the risk.

3. yea the rapist isnt trust worthy, and so shouldnt be trusted, yet a lot of those rape victims trust the rapist, because they are not careful enough.

4. If she went into the woods with you and did those things she wouldnt have been asking to get raped, it just means she wouldnt be careful enough around strangers, as you would be to her.

5. Yea i would like to walk along the beach with a girl, but then i wouldnt do it with some random girl i havnt known 5 minutes, it would be with someone i have known long enough for her to trust me and for me to trust her.

6. You can blame the rapist for commiting the rape, but you can also blame the rape victim for (in a lot of cases) not provoking it but not being careful enough. I know the risk is nearly always there, but you increase it so much when you do something like walking down a dark alley pissed up all by yourself.

7. I dont smoke, and like i said she wouldnt think i could rape her because we would have known eachother long enough to have trust between us. One of the females on this forum who posted in this thread earlier didnt know the guy very long at all, it was a careless thing to do and she chose to be that careless.

 

okcerebus im hearin ysa..but..provoking arousal..&provoking rape arent the same unless the guys got the hatred & anger towards women in him to choose toattackrather then just jerkoff
dont quite see how a girlgetting ya all hot then backin down thoughis rape exactly.. especialy if ya can get just as worked up willingly fromb oooking at a picture or anything if someones provokimng you, u can look away..ez as that righht?
never said men dont get raped, but rape is nopt being turned on against your will..lol is the violent act of forcing yourself on someone..teasing..is not an act of violence or okmaybe control..but if someones provoking u&u dont like it ya can just walk away..its not forced onutoparticipate ireally failtosee how a woman rapes a man by teasing..or how that ever gives hima reason to force past her limmets

come on..guys pay big bucks to be teased like that..provoked..turned on..would they dothat if that was being raped? guess im just not seeing youir point..cause iknow myself a girl could tease me for months straight ..drive me entirely insane..& if she said stop or dont dothat...thats it..that doesnt give me the right to even fantasize about her without her permission..srrythis tooksolong
7wasnt clear..nreeeeded coffee to collect mythoughts

 

Ah, and you were so close. You might as well say that crossing the road means you deserve to be run over, it's just not that simple.

Just cos YOU wouldn't do something, doesn't mean that you're right in your opinion. Everyone is different, everyone has different opinions and feelings and thoughts. You could be raped too, you know. And it could happen anywhere. I'm sure you're not going to avoid all forests or potentially dangerous areas for the rest of your life, are you.

I'd advise you to read through what we have written a bit more, and think on it a bit more. If you want to continue hanging around here, i can see you upsetting someone enough that you get banned otherwise, and we don't want that. Respect.

 

I had started to read this thread with great interest and then EazyE started in and I skipped through most of the BS. I mean, consider the source. He is a 15 year old with shit for brains. Sorry, but that is the way I see it. Anyway, first off, no matter what the circumstance, it is never your fault if you get raped. No matter what led up to the incident, once you say NO, then that is it. NO means NO.
Why did I read this thread with such interest? And why can I speak inteligentally about it? Because I was raped. Yes, I am a man. And as a 12 year old boy, I was raped by two men. I had sneaked out of the house one night to go to a friends. After a while at my friends, I was on my way back home when a car came up besides me and someone jumped out, threw a duffle bag over my head, forced me into the car, and took me to some house. The two men took their turn with me. Then they drove me back to the same spot and threw me out of the car. Through this whole time, I had the duffle bag over my head. Once I got up and took the duffle bag off, the car had sped away. I was so ashamed and so afraid to tell anyone what had happened. I could not tell my parents because I was not even supposed to be out that night. I never told anyone what happened. In fact, this secret stayed with me for 26 years. It was only a few years ago that I shared this with someone and I have shared it with one other since, just recently. I find that talking about it now is easier and it helps give a little peace of mind to let others know. So, to the women out there, I can sympathize with you. And to the men out there, dont think this happens to women only. It happens to boys and girls, men and women, of all ages. I just hope that if it has not happened to you, that it never does. If it has not happened to you, then you have no idea how ashamed it makes one feel. You have no idea of the terror that it istills on the person being raped. You have no idea of what goes through a person's mind when this is happening to you. You cant possibly know how it feels mentally to have to deal with such a thing.

 

No, because you look before you cross the road. Thats being careful.
I know it doesnt make it right in my opinion, thats why i called it an opinion, it what i think. I know i could be raped, but as a guy the chances are far less than for women, in which case i dont need to be nearly as careful. So its a bad comparison really.
No i wont read thru what i have said, i think before i speak....well type, and i read it thru before i post it anyway. I wont get banned, i have done nothing wrong.

 

it really is good to see such passionate debate on the subject though..but..i gotta wonder..why is this in the love & sex forum? doesnt 2quite fit but not really sure exactly where it should go
an annonomouse poll alsomightve helped ilustrate the point since iknow many have read it but been afraid to speakup
understandably
ireally do gotta comend the bravery of every one of ya who have

much respect to you

 

Lol if my brains were made of shit i would not be alive, shows what you know. Pretty childish insult for a 42 year old man. Also, I MADE THE THREAD, so you found me interesting, because i created it. Man you are not very clever are you? I guess someone used that insult on you before you used it on me.
Also how many more times does it need to be said? Its NOT THE VICTIMS FAULT THEY ARE RAPED, but it IS their fault for not being careful, which often causes the rape.
Also, now you know why your parents want you to stay in when it gets dark, there are all sorts of weirdos out there at night.

 

Well, I will not argue with you. You seem to have started this thread so you could put others down. You feel you are superior because you have never dealt with this personally and all you can do is find fault with those that it has happened to. I feel sorry for you and your way of thinking. I just hope you are so careful that this never happens to you. In fact, dont ever leave your house, because that is all that it takes for this to happen. Hell, in some cases, you dont even have to leave your house for something like this to happen.

 

zilla..damn ican just feel how traumatizing that was..& why it took 26 years to finaly be able to say what happened

your right &it really pisses me off anytime anyone says its partialy the victims fault
i've never had any bad experiences withrape myself, but like isaid before idoknow a hell of alot who have..&..they takto me...& ifeelthe weight of every single one..& after hearring the details of hundreds..maybe even thousands of stories...theres just not 1 other subject that can inflame my passions &..wel rage..i may not feel the rage a victim feels first hand.. hope i never understand that completely..but i really d feel the pain &humiliation thats caused ..these young kids are basing opinions on 1 or 2 stories &acting like they can saywell if she didnt.... but imtelling u..thats not the case..& its dammaging
when ihear 500 csses..&realize in every scase, the womans made to feel like its her fault even thoit in no way was..& comments like well if you didnt...thenu wouldnt... are largely to blame for the feeling of shame &guilt the victims feel

 

uhhuh..in fact..statisticaly at 15 dude your own house is where your most likely to be raped

goon assuming you have all the answers ..

wasnt directed at uzilla