Has my friend lost his mind? I don't know what to do...

Thank you guys for the great replies! To be honest, I wasn't expecting much at all from anyone here when I posted this, but I figured it couldn't hurt. The length and depth of these responses is incredible! Thanks for taking you're time to not only listen, but to truly and honestly make an effort to help- I really do appreciate that.

Anyways, I really do hope he chills out- and you guys are right, I hope time can do that. Again, I am all for whatever life he chooses to lead, its just that this obsessive behavior, and this irrational fear has me spooked.

I think he is being bull-headed, in part because he went through an experience which changed his life, and since I've not experienced it- he just doesn't think I can even comprehend what he is trying to tell me. To me, it seems so ignorant and ridiculously stubborn to put THAT much weight into a single pyschedelic experience. And those are the key words; psychedelic EXPERIENCE. I mean, what did he think was to happen?

This has me frustrated... Whenever I try to reason with him, he will listen politely, but he basically scoffs at me because "I couldn't understand." I highly doubt he will want to partake in another acid trip with me... but I might ask him about it.

I am also thinking about contacting some of the people he had talked to at the Blue Heron who had the same trip as him (or may not have, as some have suggested). What do you guys think of that? I would basically just like to meet up with them in person (preferably with Jay) and ask them about it. How much stock did they put into the experience? Have they changed their life? Or did they write it off as simply another acid trip fucking with their head? I dont know any of these people, but if Jay would be willing to sit down with them and have a talk, maybe he would realize that there wasn't as much to the trip as he seems to believe. Maybe he would realize LSD doesn't give you all the answers?

Again, Jay would have to agree to all of this, as I don't know any of these people, and have no way to contact them... but I don't see why he would object to this.

But that begs the question; is it even my place to try and change him? When do I cross that line from being a good friend, to trying to shape a friends life as I see fit? What happens if he sits down with these people who experienced his trip, and finally comes to the realization that it was all in his head? What if he gradually falls back into doing drugs, saying fuck religion and doing whatever he wants? I can hardly call that being a good friend either...

Like I said- being a Christian I have no problem with. I just dont agree with it. I think it inspires and motivates people to do a lot of good things, and can be a great positive force in peoples lives... I don't mean to cheat him out of that...

I'll see about stopping by tomorrow either before or after work and seeing what he thinks about meeting up with some of those people from the Heron.

Thanks again for the replies and keep them coming! You guys have been very helpful!

 

good luck with your friend.

 

def talk to those other people.

As for yoru friend talk through what would happen if teh world didn't end in 2012? Just ask him. Tell him you realise that its hard for him to accept that but just ask him "what if" it similar to asking someone what if teh world ended next week what would you do?

Also get the specifics about what is to start to happen on 9/9/9. Otherwise he'll apply meaning to stuff thats always been there IMO.

Ask him if christianity is teh ONLY asnwer in terms of religions as I know people af varying faiths who also claim to have spoken to god and teh like.

And if he does ever get arsy or look down upon you or difficult just remind him of what jesus would do. HE was supposed to be all caring and inspirational. Not arsy and difficult right?

 

in spiritual terms, your friend was contacted by very powerful energies and was opened up to the causal relationships of this world and his life. but in mundane terms, he was so tripped out that every little thing (like someone passing a pipe or waving hello) became a part of the plan. and while i belive that everything is part of the plan, a lot of stuff isn't worth figuring out. so when he came back and flipped on the tv, his shattered mind was looking for something to latch onto. abrupt changes like that are intesne, but my guess is he'll spend a while on the christian trip, then realize he still wants to fuck and drink and feel good, and it will in the end be something that contributes (most likely positively) to the path that is his life. you may have to let him go for a while, but keep the love.

 

This is basically exactly how I feel, but you put it a lot better than I did, very good advice/insight.

 

Wise words indeed. Even from a completely non-spiritual perspective, it can't be denied that a lesson can be learnt from everything in the world. Every experience you have, everything you see, hear, etc. Your mind has to take everything in, process it, and learn from it. It's in this way that we grow and mature as people.

It's up to us (or rather our minds) to filter out the crap, and only take away what will be beneficial to us. As I'm sure everyone who's ever tripped is aware, acid breaks down the "importance" filters in our mind, and allows us to see far beyond what we usually can. The most basic evidence of this is when you look at a tree, you can appreciate every branch and every leaf. The non-tripping mind will look at a tree and it will see a tree. It has the ability to focus on individual parts of it (ie leaves/branches etc), but unless it specifically focuses on specific parts, it will only see a tree.

Your friend has unfortunately carried this way of thinking through into his normal life. Not nescessarily in the visual sense, but what he's doing with hidden messages and crazy interpretations, is no different from my tree example. He is looking at a program on TV, and rather than taking it at face value, he's seeing all sorts of different interpretations of it, that a normal person would never consider. Unfortunately he seems to think this is some special gift he's been given, but in reality (despite what some have said in this thread), it definitely seems like a mental condition.

 

By finding yourself, I mean having a pretty strong grasp of your own personality. I think many of you would be surprised by how many people out there don't even know what they really desire. They are only interested in whatever is popular, or what they've been programmed to care about by their family and friends. I think a weak person like that might be very susceptible to clinging to the first thing that came at them in an LSD altered state.

That is why I said LSD might be dangerous for some people and I stick with it.

 

man thats a crazy story man...
my dads friends son, took shrooms once and it wasnt his first time or anything, but he had a wierd trip. Then like three days later he was smokin a joint with his friend and all the sudden he just snapped and ran out the room, that was the end like he was gone from then on, he's still in a mental hospital and is completly paranoid and out there.
it was in the paper and everything. he got like a cat scan or what ever and his brain was just fucked up like it looked like a skitzos brain...



There was also this one incodent that always kinda freaked me out. It was new years eve and we got some acid little did we know it was fuckin strong as hell, my friend told me it would be strong but it didnt really believe him, so me and about six of my buddies all took it but my friend and his girlfriend took two hits and we all took one so everything was goin good and i was really happy to be trippin that hard just off one hit and about like maybe 6 hours later my friend that took two hits started acting craazy like rainting on about life and its porpuse and how all these things connect and he said he almost figured out the meaning of everything like the universe and all that crazy shit and it was fuckin with him well that went on for about an hour and he just kept sayin he needs water sex and ciggs or hes gonna die then he just sat down and went into a blank stare like he looked like he was gonna kill someone i was really scared and his girlfriend was like matt matt matt are you ok and he just kept the scariest blankest like his fuckin soul was currently being ripped from his eyes look then he stood up and threw up like 8 times still with a freaked out look then layed down and wouldnt come out of this demension so to say for hours. his girl was jsut sleeping holding him then all the sudden he was like "what just happened" and came out of it like he thought it was a dream the whole time and didnt no what was goin on... hes fine now and has done shrooms and acid after that but he dosnt really like it anymore i for real thought he was gonna be gone for ever like never comin back... it was really crazy man the look in his eyes just fucked with me i've never seen anything like it, it sucked me in and scared the livin shit out of me

 

^^ this guy needs to use some periods. Anyway, sounds pretty crazy I think that these people cling to easily to ideas presented to them. Too much faith in the unknown that is. Sad, I'm glad i don't do this, but these people would enjoy psychedelics more if they were more introspective and less external. Its about your mind, not the end of the world.

 

similar event happened to my online friend, though I don't know exactly what drugs were involved

then she disappeared

can't tell ya it looks good, but I'm banking for ya man