You ladies need to unbunch your collective panties ASAP, and fucking get back on topic. My two cents, "enjoyment" is a matter of perspective. Its better to go into the experience with an open mind, open to whatever possibilities may manifest. Its amazing what you hear when you actually listen.
What kiddies or fools are still ot there tinkerin and playing with stupid salvia? my person experiences have been interesting but very subpar, since ive tried DMT, salvia is a laugh, a joke and childsplay.... all to be desired from salvia is prickly sweaty discomfort after a dizzy bout that feels like you've had your drinking limit (spinning room) when you close your eyes you are hurled backwards thru some sort of vortex or something, pale as a ghost and sick to boot. When i think of salvia, i think of all the teenie boppers in the states and elsewhere who sneak the shady bag of leaves or little snuffbox of 5-80x sticky purple salvia (overpriced namebrand crap that works the same) pretending to be the cool kid whos mom said they could smoke pot or the rebel who smokes saliva cuz its the 'hip' thing to do. go get a grip, go get some san pedro cactus or some HBWR seeds or some mornin glory seeds and lotsa lemons, stop being pussies and do something worth reporting on, not the stupid sweaty 3-5min trips salvia gives, try a 5-12 minute DMT trip and then be truly amazed. or just go for the DXM enlightenment, cheap and effective, and dont give me that tixicity bullcrap cuz doing it a handfull fo times in your life wont kill you half as much as smokign cigs everyday, or taking ibuprophen thrice daily for your artheritis (if you had it) salvia= low level witch status shit DXM,DMT,LSD,SHROOMS= High Level 99 mage status shit XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Teeny boppers are victims of commercialism, those extract can screw you like would not begin to think possible, no matter how hardened a tripper you are. They just seem to overshoot the ideal level and go straight to crazy every time... very few people are even able to rememebr much of what hapened after... Properly reducing tolerance, useing appropriate dosages, and even better appropriate ingestion methods like chewing, salvia can be a great learning experience. And similar to DMT it also has two levels, one just being "light" (but equaly intense) visual effects and the breakthrough level where you have contact with what feels like intelligent entities rather than yourself. Those in neurology circles would say that is a result of stimulation of the right cortex, those who had the experience would be ambivilent in agreeing. So, yeah, you are likely to have a few dicey experiences before you have the AH HA experience... but if it holds even the faintest interest to you, keep on trying, keep it light, keep it natural, develop your relationship over time. This is not acid that you can master in one night.
If you trip hard enough on salvia it WILL be the coolest thing you have ever experienced. It takes you to a place that you only thought could exist after death. Thats my best way to put it.
It takes you every where. All at once. If you think salvia by itself is something.. Try salvia with nitrous oxide. You might just Become!
Salvia isn't supposted to be "enjoyable", I don't think... I haven't enjoyed it, but I'm happy that I tried it, and do use it occasionally, if that makes sense. It hasen't had any lasting effect on me really, but I get a day or so of that feeling of "enlightenment" (the sort that you just know won't go away THIS time, but it always does) I think it's well worth using, but you're not set for a good experiance if you go into it looking for something enjoyable in that sense. It's not what people who buy a "legal high" are looking for. *edit* Oh gawd whoyoucantsee, you enjoy DXM but think salvia is childsplay? I know the feeling you mean, and it means you can still tell who you are... and that you exist. Which means you have not had NEARLY enough salvia. Try trippling your dose and holding your hit longer. (though you must remember to control your breathing after exhaling, before you lose control of that and hyperventilate, which will destroy your trip). Not to say it should be fun, you should ALMOST dread it... but also crave it. And it just flat out doesn't affect what seems to be about 1 out of every 10 people. But most people just need more, and to smoke it out of a proper bong with a proper lighter.
Let me preface this by saying i have not tried N,N Dmt. But i have tried 5 meo dmt, Mescaline (san Pedro), LSD, and mushrooms. Try combining Salvia with Ecstasy, it is a more profound experience than any of the above mentioned that i have tried. I'm not going to say much more if you haven't tried it, think about the aspects of salvia you don't like and then what ecstasy does. Do it in the dark alone or with a close friend(S).
I would have to say salvia and nitrous trumps salvia and ecstasy.. You disassociate right out of reality.