Harper won Canada zero

Hey, guess what.....

I'm not.

In fact, if I had my druthers, government would enforce private contracts, inspect food and water and pave the roads. That's it.

 

awwww. that's sooo... endearing.

*pats his head*

 

Remember, the more a government can do for you, the more it can do to you.

1776 is the cure for 1984.

 

So preachy with no cogent arguments.

What cranky wretches are we.

 

Well, I dunno. In the USA, I can ride with more than two people without being constituted a "gang", I can have handlebars on my bike that have my hands up where they need to be, I have control of my own money whereas in Canada, I'd have none of the above but I could marry another guy.

Right.

Well, that settles it for me.

 

Man! Does THAT satirize JFK!

Aristartle, your Nana is to be commended.

As for those who are enamoured of the law of the jungle, let's hope they fall prey to something a bit higher up on the food chain.

Then they will be the first to cry foul and demand a government bailout.

Here in Canada Harris, Flaherty and their ilk crapped on the poor all the time. Even wanted to jail homeless persons. Anyone who had a social conscience was a "special interest group". But they had no problem handing our tax dollars to their friends as "corporate welfare".

 

I'm so thrilled to hear that you already have what you need in life from the government. For the rest of us living in the real world, we have other more pressing priorities to be dealt with.

 

especially articulate ones. le groan.

 

wow, genious, as if corporate culture didn't already have a stranglehold on us, you'd do without government services? I suggest you take a vacation, down to Argentina perhaps, see how well complete privitisation worked out for them.

I'm a hardworking guy, pretty smart, white, male, pysically able, all things considered I have it pretty damn good. But you know what, I'm struggling like hell to try and make it in todays working world, my parents arn't well enough off to put me through school so I've been trying to do it myself, incrementally. I'll get by, eventually, but my lord if I were disabled, or had kids, or any other number of variables I'd be screwed and forced into a life of wage-slavery(which is scary as fuck, no fuckin way pensions will still be around when I retire). The middle class is quickly disapearing, tuition is getting jacked up like mad, cost of living is soaring, urban centres and affordable housing is now mostly decrepid and job security is virtually dead; put simply the have-nots of society are under serious bombardment right now.

Seriously, your commentary is completely heartless and you're out of touch with the reality of us "parasites". I don't need the government to feed, shelter and cloth me, but damned if I can get by without what little they already offer.

 

Was canada not complicit in this?

How much has canada been complicit in "terror"?

Your country isnt 'clean' either.

 

You know what? When you go out to public parks they say "please do not feed the bears or other animals, as they will forget how to hunt and starve". We don't, however say "please don't give welfare to the unwashed, as they will sleep in until noon, drink beer and smoke cigarettes and forget how to work."

You laugh about how people like me will fall to the claw of another, yet you wail at the same time that sooner or later the handouts cease and where does that leave entire areas, like Newfoundland, that count on welfare for half the year?

Yeah, well, that's life, man.

It's always been that way and always been that way. This is the real world.

So either you recognise that fundamentally, it's claw against claw and survival of the fittest, or you sit there and whine and drown.

And do you know WHY you've got it rough? Because of socialist laws that say you can practically not fire someone unless you've warned him in triplicate and given him ample opportunity to shape up (leading to employees who slack, first warning, slack, second warning - shape up, OK you're not fired then, slack, first warning, slack, second warning, shape up, OK you're not fired then...), huge taxes on jobs (employers are required to pay a tax on every hour you work. No, that's not collecting yr income tax, if you hire someone at $8 an hour you have to pay the gov't $8 an hour) - they say they put big taxes on smokes to discourage smoking but apparently big taxes on jobs aren't to discourage employers from hiring.

Guess what, too, Canadian employers are now supposed to give women a year off with their pay and keep their jobs for them if they want babies. So hire a woman, I'm pregnant, great, hire a temp for a year and pay two people, end of that year, sorry you're fired, welcome back, three months later, I'm pregnant again, rinse lather repeat.

 

:O - oh my god.

Do you have any idea how terrified I am to get pregnant because of the issue?

When I get out of university (at the age of 24) I may want to go post-grad. That means maybe 2 more years of school. so I'm 26 by the time I'm ready to settle down, find a job, buy a car, pay back debts and move in with a boyfriend - if that's the case. I'll be 26 when I'm ready to put myself into a career fully and completely.

Ok - small window frame now for me to have children. I'm not wanting kids as soon as I get married. But if I have my first child at the age of 32 - that means I will be 50 by the time my first child will be 18 - and at the age they will be graduating high school. There's a small window frame for women to have kids at a time that they can afford to now-a-days, and that being said, if a factor to the reasons why women are having less children. Other priorities to take care of.

I'm terrified to ask my employer for time off to have a kid. That alone, prevents many women from getting pregnant in the first place - they just can't take the time off from their careers.

Canada's population rate is in trouble. There aren't enough babies being born, and immigrants coming in to support the aging baby boomers and contribute to the economy by putting money into their pensions.

The least the government can do is give some the comfort of knowing that my baby won't go hungry for a year. And for Christ's sake - I have never met a employee that was taking over a position for a woman on maternity leave that wasn't aware of the fact to begin with. They get a good reference if they do a good job, and are made aware that they are only there temporarily. All of your co-workers know when you're on maternity leave, and find out who's taking your place.

There's nothing wrong with being dedicated to your job - and wanting to start a family at the same time.

Men can also take a wear off work to take care of a child too now - because in some families, this works better for them - and in some cases, the woman's income is higher than the man's income, and it works better for them financially.

Do you disagree with this policy IronGoth??

Should men be allowed to take care of a newborn for a year after its birth?

 

So, you choose. Do you want kids or do you want a career? There's BTW nothing wrong with having yr kids at 20-22 and going back to uni later.

If you can. Fertility starts declining dramatically in yr 30s. Dirty little secret. Saw a bunch of whiny women on 60 minutes. Did EXACTLY as you said, thought oh well I can have kids at 35. That didn't happen. "Oh well, a doctor just gives me a pill or something". Try tens of thousands of dollars of risky not guaranteed to work treatment. "I wuz robbed!" Now there's a movement to try to tell girls if they wait they might miss out, but that's being resisted firmly by the feminist movement.

Yup. Maybe if taxes were lower and things cheaper, people could have families again. But we knew better didn't we?

You know what honey? We men have to make decisions like that ALL THE TIME. We're scared to ask for time off to see school plays. Heck, I was flat out told if I wasn't in at work the day after my wife gave birth my job was gonna end and my immigration cancelled and therefore I'd be deported (with a two day old). Who do you think the wife resents for that one. My employer? Or me?

Also, the immigrants coming in cost money, as opposed to making money.

Yeah, but if you run yr own business, you can't afford to pay two people plus taxes and benefits for both. The government makes policies but it ain't them paying for it.

Great, so they gotta catch up. Most people want a permanent job, not one for a few months.

Absolutely. There's a great deal wrong with that.

How great!

What, of men taking time off? Not at all.

According to every TV show and commercial men couldn't figure out which end of a baby to put the cheese steak in.

 

pfff. I don't think I should have to choose between a career and having kids when I deserve to have both.

Actually, there are a lot of people that want a job for a couple months. It gives them experience, and they can get a good reference for doing a good job while they continue to look for something more permanent.

Many people are willing to take maternity leave positions if they are planning on moving after their employment is terminated.

If they do a good job, they've made a good name for themselves, and gained at least a year of work experience.

 

is maternity leave really a year long up in canada?

 

yes.

You can choose whether you want to use all of it, some of it, or none of it. It's a good and flexible program.

 

that's a long freaking time. And what would stop a woman from getting pregnant every 18 months and collecting money without putting in more than 6 months every 3 years?

and on the paternity leave...can both the mother and father claim it? or is it an either/or situation. Both is just atrocious...

 

Nothing would stop her.

Only one parent can claim maternity leave. Either the mother, or the father.

 

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

What do you think THIS one is gonna do to hiring women?

Oh right, nothing. Don't hire a woman and she sues you.

And you can't ask if she intends on becoming a breeding machine either.

So, you can either have your company sued to death, or you can watch half your workforce walk out on the job and you have to pay twice as many people for the same work.

Ain't Canada grand? And they wonder why they're doing so poorly compared to the G-8.

 

Said by someone who doesn't own a business.