Hard for Obama to choose a VP

Yeah, I agree with Spence there... it is obvious that politics are extremely corrupt, yet that simple fact is not an excuse to be completely apathetic about it.

Saying such things as "Oh... they're all the same, and everyone is evil and blah blah blah" is in my opinion worse that blindly believing in them. It's a little hard to blame a stupid person for their stupidity, but it sure is easy to blame an intelligent person for their self-imposed apathy.

There are many differences in policy between Obama and McCain... only a complete idiot would constantly go on to state that they are all the same. I personally would much rather see Obama win. It would benefit me as a liberal minded college student. You cannot expect too much from your political parties and leaders, but even a small amount of change can make a huge difference in the long run.



Anyhow... I've been gettin' too serious... so to balance this post off, I present you with Obama's VP:

 

I'm not apathetic. Hopefully I'm also not crazy.

But to think that the upcoming election is big shit is not simply being engaged...it's also being dellusional.

 

Yep, him too. Obama is surrounded by warmongers, yet his followers will believe he's against the war because they mindlessly buy into his pre-scripted rhetoric.

 

It's the whole logic that the individual personality weighs more than the systemic limitations those personalities operate under.

 

No, people believe he's against war because *shock!*, he is. He's very anti military, do some research next time. I think past politicians and the Bush administration has just made you guys far too cynical that you don't trust anyone in Washington.

 

No, I think you've just been hitting the koolaid a little too hard. I do research. 90% of my free time consists of doing research. It seems like the research you do comes in the form of media sound bites.

Obama can say he's against the war as many times as he likes and gullible people will believe it. But that is irrelevant because he decides nothing anyway. He never even said he was against war and his rhetoric towards Pakistan proves that. More so his voting record proves he is far from being anti-war.

Anti-military? That seriously made me laugh. If he was anti-military, he would have been completely discredited long ago. Obama is owned lock, stock and barrel by the military-industrial complex and international banking cartels. He is an establishment yes-man wearing a banner that reads "change."

 

"But that is irrelevant because he decides nothing anyway."

Yeah, you're going to have to explain that one.

"More so his voting record proves he is far from being anti-war."

You mean like voting against the Iraq war?

"If he was anti-military, he would have been completely discredited long ago."

He get criticism from republicans frequently for it.

"Obama is owned lock, stock and barrel by the military-industrial complex and international banking cartels. He is an establishment yes-man wearing a banner that reads "change.""

Prove it.

 

you are fucking kidding me.

he WASN'T IN THE SENATE TO VOTE REGARDING THE IRAQ WAR!

and there is a difference between republicans calling someone anti-military, and it being so

do you know what would happen if lockheed put up a commercial through a pac describing how many jobs would be lost if an actual anti-military president ran?

the race would ALREADY BE OVER

not to mention all of the veterans groups, enlisted soldiers, blue star mothers, face it, you have no idea what you are talking about, and, I don't often like it, but I have to agree with matt, you have hit the kool-aid WAY too hard (or flavor-aid)

 

1) Presidents are puppets. Do you think George Bush, a man that cannot speak a proper sentence of English, runs anything? Of course not. He, like all presidents, is nothing more than a figurehead for the public to believe in. Presidents decide absolutely nothing. They are merely the face provided to the public to implement policy that is put forward behind the scenes.

2) Obama voted against (rather, claimed to be against) the Iraq war initially, then he voted to continue funding the war.

3) Who cares if he is attacked by the Republicans? Politics are nothing more than a smoke screen designed for public consumption. Like the Democrats, the Republicans are merely playing a role. It's all about getting the people believing in the left/right paradigm and on one side or the other, then arguing about which side is the right one. It's called divide and conquer. Meanwhile, both parties are supported by the same big money interests.

4) Look at Obama's advisors, then go to the opensecrets.org website and look at where most of his campaign money comes from. It's not rocket scientry. Obama is nothing more than a yes-man for the international banking cartels and corporations, and there is no way he could possibly be in the position he's in if he wasn't.

 

He's been apposed to the Iraq war from the start. And yes, Obama in general is very anti-military. There's heaps of sources that attest to that, try that research some time.

 

What do you mean he's "anti-military"?? What does that mean??

Obviously he's not "anti-military" when he openly calls for a strike on Pakistan.

 

"1) Presidents are puppets. Do you think George Bush, a man that cannot speak a proper sentence of English, runs anything? Of course not. He, like all presidents, is nothing more than a figurehead for the public to believe in. Presidents decide absolutely nothing. They are merely the face provided to the public to implement policy that is put forward behind the scenes."

Lol, any proof of this, or is it just some patriots theory you got from a metal gear solid game?


"4) Look at Obama's advisors, then go to the opensecrets.org website and look at where most of his campaign money comes from. It's not rocket scientry. Obama is nothing more than a yes-man for the international banking cartels and corporations, and there is no way he could possibly be in the position he's in if he wasn't."

How does being apposed to special interest groups fit into that plan?

 

Huh???

Obama claims not to accept money from lobbyists, but he does anyway, as is shown in this article:

Obama's Money Cartel:

http://www.counterpunch.org/martens05052008.html

Obama, like all corrupt politicians, relies on a gullible, uninformed, dumbed-down public to simply believe what he says without doing any of their own research. Most of Obama's sheepish followers know nothing about the issues. They simply like the way he looks and how he talks. It's called a cult of personality.

 

Jamaican youth...
I dare you to come live in the USA.
Pressed Rat is spot on.

 

Wow, ok, you're taking that term so literally. In general he does not believe in taking a military approach to things, and he drastically wants to cut back spending tens of billions of dollars in weapons and unproven missile development, he wants to end the iraq war, he wants to set a goal for a world without nuclear weapons, it's all sufficient enough to coin him anti-military, which is what many call him, and is one of the reasons I like him.

 

"Huh???"

I said, where's the proof, or is it just some conspiracy theory you heard in a game?

 

You make him sound like the antichrist. Oh yeah let me vote for him.

 

yeah but
he's just the puppet.............

his "crew" all support the war.

the president is an ACTOR

not a LEADER

see...
americans are brainwashed.

Are You?

 

So basically you're just going by his word alone and choosing to believe whatever BS he spews without looking at the man or his record? You're pretty much the typical Obama supporter in that case.

 

"yeah but
he's just the puppet.............

his "crew" all support the war.

the president is an ACTOR"

lol, come on, you're working on a conspiracy theory here, any link or proof that presidents are just public faces?