Greta Thunberg

Interesting article regarding environmental efforts and increasing world population:

Are eco-friendly initiatives pointless unless we tackle overpopulation?

 

Shows just out of touch with reality you truly are - there are no more coal-fired power stations in operation.

 

In the UK a minority of electricity still comes from coal. In 2018 apparently 5.4%. Globally this percentage is much higher

 

They are not fully electric. They are hybrid. Use fuel when not in zero emissions mode.

And of course, when charged use electricty produced still mostly by coal and gas in the end

And of course there is the 30,000 batteries in each vehicle that will need to be replaced and disposed of every couple of years

And of course there is the worlds ever increasing population, you are still just offsetting by a couple decades the levels thrse systems would have otherwise consumed

 

Both incorrect

 

What was incorrect about what I said?

 

Nothing. He just likes to say "incorrect".

 

I live in southern Ohio, right here in the good old USA. I can drive 30 minutes west to a coal-fired power plant, and an hour south will start me touring past a bevy of coal-fired plants, almost all of which are built at the confluence of some stream and the Ohio River. An hour or so east will put me alongside the Conesville Power Station, also coal-fired, right on the Muskengum River. I'm betting there are several more along that river before it dumps into the Ohio River, too.

I don't know where you guys get your stats about coal-fired plants, but they ABOUND over here in the USA, and we also have the least pollution in the world. China is far worse, and that part of the world around them isn't much better. I haven't touched on the atomic power plants here in Ohio or elsewhere in the USA, either.

As for public transport, I don't care how you glorify it, those things require just as much pollution to make and use as our fossil burners. Don't kid yourself. You should see the holes where the resources to make these lunkers come from, and the plants that process the materials. An individual with his own personal vehicle makes nowhere near as much as the same individual riding public transport.

 

I dont think you read all of that, as it gets militant in the middle

"Furthermore, the likelihood of preventing that billion births is constantly being cut off at the knees by backwards politicians and religious groups limiting safe and affordable sex education, birth control and abortion access. If you’re ranting about population control I’d better see you ranting for women’s reproductive rights too, but that’s an issue for another soapbox."


And it only deals with the context up to 2050....what about 2550, 3050.

1000 years from now, just how much of the population should we have slowed, how much still each of us need to sacrifice to keep temps where they are now

It isnt just about the next 31 years

 

Wooleeheron (brain-damaged), I think you should tell us how you really feel. I'm always impressed by the "Science is settled!" crowd and how much they believe so many things that just aren't so. Our planet has gone through many warm and cold cycles over the time we've been recording such events, and we can now apply that knowlege to what we see in tree growth rings. Sad to say, it's much harder to apply it all to the fossil record, as there seems to be an unsubstantiated bias to impute long ages to test results that quite obviously don't have any other evidence to support it other than "everyone knows that!".

Climate change is no different. It gets colder. Then it gets warmer. Over the last hundred years climate change "scientists" have reversed their findings repeatedly, saying "We're heading into an ice age!" or "We're all gonna' burn!" until now they have all become "Chicken Little" and nobody cares what they have to say anymore. They are all fools. Over the last 6,000 years water has covered the entire planet twice, a single super-continent has been divided into separate continents, a short-term "ice age" has come and gone, and everything continues as it was until our Creator says otherwise. Man isn't powerful enough to stop what He put in motion. The end of the world isn't coming for at least another 1,000 years, and although things will get far worse than we've seen in our lifetimes, things will go on until the end. For every Al Gore there are many more scientists who disagree with his findings, and for good reason, but you won't find them unless you're looking for them because mainstream media sources do their best to bury that. Just imagine that for a moment. Those who know nothing about a subject are deciding what you get to see or know about it. How dumb is that? Kinda' like letting a bricklayer give medical advice to you.

 

They were talking about the United Kingdom. There are 9 coal power stations in the UK

 

Back on topic, I think Thunberg makes an excellent point!

Isn't she wonderful? I think it takes a potent intellect to do what she is doing. And determination.

 

Ahhh.... so sorry about their luck, but I'm still very grateful to live here rather than there. What part of the UK, I wonder, do they mean?
While I might consider a visit to Canada, and even Australia, I wouldn't want to visit Britain for anything. Same goes for Germany now that that screwball has ruined it as well.

 

policy has since been relaxed from what I can tell.