Greta Thunberg

see, I feel like the critique is misplaced. Thunberg is trying to do right for all mankind. She shouldn't be criticized for that.

 

You could say the same thing about Hitler though. He thought he was doing right too and tried to make a difference.

What's good for the goose, isn't always good for the gander.

 

But you love to call teenage girls "hot". So yes keep it in your pants.

 

A "female" (aka woman)who wears a MAGA hat into a bar in California and complains about being attacked deserves to be called out for stupidity. So would a man. Her gender has nothing to do with it. Women aren't exempt from responsibility for their actions. Wearing a MAGA hat isin't really about appearance. It's about a deliberately provocative message and symbol. If I wore a Biden for President hat into a bar in Oklahoma, I'd expect to be committing suicide. If I didn't, anybody would be justified in calling me stupid.

 

Lol.

 

I'll see your twue colors
Shining thwough

I see your twue colors
And that's why I love you


So don't be afraid

to let them show

Your twue colors twue colors

are beautiful
Like a wain-ha-haim bow

 

So what are those true colors? Care to elaborate?

 

I think you've shown that you're really no better than the people you constantly argue against. I'd have thought that someone who claims to be American Indian would have strong personal connections with being rediculed and harassed yet here you are no different to the white man. You see something that upsets you and then justify it with violence. Hypocrisy at its finest. The peaceful left lol.

 

There was once a time when his own people had their ceremonial headdresses removed and assulted for their own beliefs and now he's starting to realise he isn't much better. Oh the irony.

 

The consensus among scientists is that the sooner we act to eradicate climate change, the better, which means the end of the fossil fuel industry starting yesterday.

We should focus more on the problem, which is that people are insisting that we can't trust our scientists. I can appreciate that point of view, since they are, after all, only human and really don't know very much. It's kind of hard to imagine how they can give you a fifty percent chance of rain day today, but can give you a one hundred percent chance of hell on Earth twelve years from now.

They may be being a bit presumptuous, but the truth is, conceptually speaking, we may have even less time than that. The world is out of control. Freaking stockpiles of plutonium are unaccounted for. Everything always goes back to all right. We're trained to think everything will always be all right. But one of these days, everything might not be all right anymore.

We have set ourselves up for disaster, and have come to realize that disaster is also looming all around us. We're in a fucking minefield.

We truly are polluting the environment. Really badly actually. Oil and nuclear waste and plastic in the sea. Billions of cars spewing out exhaust fumes that kill you if you inhale them directly, but we just spray that shit 24/7 into the atmosphere. In such volume that it's literally as though the Earth itself is spewing the gaseous remains of its innards into the sky. And I guess we think it eventually just turns into harmless air, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

We just don't want to suffer, which is what changing this world would require, so it's not going to get changed. All of the people who never think, and there are so, so many of them, just expect everything to always be hunky dory for them. They can't conceptualize anything, because they don't know how to think. They take no responsibility for anything; they just change with the times.

It's all left to a handful of people to try and keep chaos at bay. Some people will say that I'm being dramatic, but that is the reality of what we're talking about. If we continue on this course for too long, there will definitely be irreparable damage. So all of you guys who were hoping pollution was AOK should just give up the ghost now and quit.

 

Blaming the victim is never justified. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

 

I think it is, if the "victim" deliberately acted to provoke violence in order to claim martyrdom. Besides, the story is fishy. Did she report the incident? Who were the witnesses? I've never heard of a mob attacking a woman in a bar and pinching her genitals. What were the bartender and the bouncers doing? Joining in? Was the alleged incident reported in the media? Sounds pretty unbelievable to me, even in California. Did the alleged incident really happen? I doubt it.

 

How is wearing a hat deliberately provoking violence to claim martyrdom? And you're always telling everybody to research their facts and here you are on the flip side couldn't be bothered looking into it because it seems "unbelievable" to you. Lol. I first read about in on HF quite a while ago, so no doubt you'd have been in there. Turn a blind eye.

 

How on earth would anyone go about researching this on the basis of the minimal information Six provided? And it's not just wearing a hat. It's wearing a MAGA hat in a strange bar in California where drinking is going on at a time when,as I recall, the 2016 election returns were coming in and being watched by the bar patrons over TV. Of course, she had a perfect right to do that, but wasn't prudent.

 

You could easily type it into Google. Oh you remember now. How quaint. So what are you suggesting? People can't go to a bar they've never been in now if they're wearing a MAGA hat? Sounds about as civil as declining the rights of indigenous peoples and making them stay on "their" alotted land.

Anyway. Whatever. But you do realise the next time one of your political candidate supporters gets they ass beat down it's fair game, right? and you don't really have a leg to stand on being upset about it either. They shouldn't have been wearing that shirt, or holding that sign, or saying those things in public. They deserve to get violently attacked, by your own logic.

 

After she bailed on that place to get away from those people, she contacted the bar the next day to report what happened, and tried to find if they had witnesses or surveillance footage. She said they weren't too helpful in getting any information on people who went in that night. No security cameras caught anything. And in the end she said that dealing with police and trying to start a manhunt for those individuals wasn't worth taking time out of her busy life. That pretty much sums up what I got out of her story. I'm not seeing that woman anymore; my girlfriend is a different person. We had a few evenings together when she was up here until she went back down to California.

Even if she lied and made up the story to me, the fact that you think she's in the wrong for being at a LA bar while wearing Trump gear, before anyone knew the results of the election, is very troubling. And my comparison to you to being a rape sympathizer still stands.

Suppose you did wear Biden gear to a bar in your state and got jumped. Your attackers are in the wrong for jumping you. You are exercising your freedom of speech. Wearing Biden gear is not fighting-words. How are you gonna flip your state blue if you feel that you shouldn't be allowed to openly express yourself and change minds?

 

Let me explain why that's an invalid analogy. If we could find the perpetrators of this alleged sexual assault, I'd be all in favor of prosecuting them all, and wouldn't for a minute entertain a defense that she was "asking for it". They're obviously guilty. As a matter of fact, though, she would still have behaved very stupidly wearing a MAGA hat into a strange bar on election night while the returns were being counted. It would be like wearing an orange Oklahoma State University jersey into a bar in Norman, OK, during a bedlam game between OSU and its rival, OU--only the stakes would be more serious. Or to use your rape analogy, it would be like a woman walking into a bar topless in a rough neighborhood. Would rape be excusable under the circumstances, no way! Would she be stupid for doing so? Of course, regardless of what the #me too folks might think, or her rights to freedom of expression might be. Freedom of speech is a legal right assertable against government encroachments. It doesn't immunize anyone from retaliation by angry mobs. My attackers would definitely be wrong for jumping me over my Biden hat, but I'd be dead or damaged. Cold comfort! I'll wear my Biden hat alright, but not in any bar in Oklahoma on election night, unless I know the customers, proprietor and bouncer very well! (BTW, wearing a Biden hat could be fighting words if I wore it to a Trump rally.)

 

Oh really ??? - Tell that to all the Socialists, Trade Unionists, Intellectuals, physically and mentallly disabled who didn't agree with him !!! Oh wait, you can't they were sent to concentration camps and then the gas chambers !!!

 

Lol OK I guess I won't go and tell that to them then.

Good one, keem 'em coming cobber.