you gotta smoke it like you mean it. pack twice as much next time. did you use a screen or some herb underneath like weeattoes said? you should. hold the smoke in. take your 2nd hit immediately after the 1st. and a 3rd immediately after than if you can still see the bong and operate the lighter. 10x might not be strong enough. mine was apparently "standardized" which is better than "regular"...it's guaranteed to be all 10x i guess. not exactly sure about that. but try to get standardized extract, or get 20x or something higher. but for now, just smoke more of the 10x (if you want to) if you breakthrough you might go to those different layers on your bed hahaha when i broke through i couldn't SEE my trip sitter. i couldn't perceive anything in my living room, it was like i was in a completely different place. also, you probably had tolerance from the 6x joint earlier in the day. that's my #1 guess as to what went wrong.
everything they said and some people it may take 'more' Like the person i live with when she first tried it ...it took her a FEW HUGE hits to get there. and i have standardized 10x.
also...a HUGE hit is ill-defined. i'm 6'3" so my lungs are quite large, and they are conditioned from 13 years of pot smoking. a huge hit of mine could be 2 or 3 of your huge hits. so you might need to rip it 4 or 5 times.
I had a very strong "stoned" feeling when i wrote that last night so ill attemp to write what exactly happened and what i did. Me and my partner went up to the bedroom and we sat on the bed (thought the bed was a good idea for comfort). I then took a pinch of the 10x and filled the cone of the bong (using a screen). Sat for about 10min trying to pluck up the courage to do it as i was thinking it was a bad idea to read all the trip reports on here haha. At that point i just thought fuck it and kept my lighter on the cone all the time while taking a huge suck and i kept the some in for as long as i could. My partner took the bong off me and i laid back onto the bed and started feeling like waves rushing up my body which i really liked but that was about it. I then open the packet again and filled the cone with a big pinch of it and done the same as before but took 3 huge hits. Now by this point i felt heavy and a laid back and started laughing and couldnt stop. On my left i could hear a male voice saying "just keep laughing" but i couldnt see a guy or anything and when i looked down to my feet, i could see layers. The only way i can explain the layers is that every layer was a different "room" (although what i was actually seeing was roughled up bed covers). As i said before all the way though my trip i was still very aware that my girlfriend was next to me and knowing that she couldn't see any off what i was seeing/doing, made me really uncomfortable and possible held me back. The only way i can explain my "trip" is it reminded me of a YouTube trip. Even though it was fun. Thats not what i was aiming for. After it all wore off i just felt stoned for 20min then it all passed. I went to my bed about 1 n a half hours later and i must have had the most fucked up nightmare ive ever had lol. Also the reason i used a screen in the bong was that in my area were having a weed dry spell and can't get shit.
yea i know thats why i said a few. heh you dont have to use weed... you can use really any herb just a tiny bit even cooking herbs..just need a smal amount to go under the salvia And from what you put im not sure you held it in long enough.
I've got a funny feeling its the bong. Its just normal coke bottle with a bong connecter on it. You know what i mean.
you only took one hit...laid back for awhile, and then took a few more hits?? if you want to breakthrough (it wasn't much more fun than what you described though), take all your hits back to back. you have to get it in you fast or you get a tolerance. if you take one hit, wait 5 minutes, and take 5 more huge rips, you probably won't breakthrough. if you take 2 or 3 hits one after the other...you might
Thanks for the help guys. gonna give it another go 2nite with the new bong i just bought. it was hard to get a good suck with the other one since it was a tight funnel
Well i tried it again and WOW is all i can say, really intense lol My girlfriend had her friend over for a chat blah blah so i decided i was going to try it again. So i got my bong and filled the cone with the 10x again and sat in-between my girlfriend and her friend. I’m sitting on the couch directly in front of my TV (witch i forgot to turn off, sorry it didn’t even occur to me to turn it off). The TV is a big flat screen and "An idiot abroad" was on (British Show). Anyways i took a huge hit and held it in, then done the same again, i was about to for a 3rd but fuck knows what happened after i exhaled after the 2nd ha-ha. I Started tripping overtime. The room i was in was no longer there, everything was black but the TV looked like a window into another dimension. I looked over at my girlfriend and i saw her but didn’t know who she was then i looked at her friend and it was the same. I had no clue who they were but did recognise them. I couldn’t even see what i was sitting on. Looking at the TV there was a boat in a river and a guy in the corner of the screen talking to another guy saying "do you think he’s going to join us, nah he’s to scared" now that freaked me the fuck out but i started thinking i was meant to go up to this window to another place (TV) and climb in. Now i was told i tried to stand up but my girlfriends pal sat me back down. I then saw Carl Pilkington on the TV (Star of an idiot abroud) and i thought to myself "this isn’t fucking right lol" The i started coming out of it, still a little confused but everything started making sense. Now every thing that i have read on forums is "don't fight the trips, just go with them". lol if i had just went with the trip and didnt fight it, i would have came out the trip but would be hugging the tv & attemting to climb in it hahaha. It was horrible being confused in the trip but i felt really relaxed and chilled after and it hasn’t put me off doing it again.
sounds about right sorry, we should have told you to turn off background noise. i had music going, and i think it GREATLY contributed to my confusion, and the cyclical nature of my "test" in salvia land. the chorus of the song would reset the loop type experience i had. then i started to recognize the song, and was like you.."this isn't right" and i started to see the room i was in again and come back to normal. it put me off doing it again hahah i was told i stood up, spun around in circles, rolled around, and i came to trying to climb into my coffee table. it's important to try to remember to not move around, and good if your sitter(s) can gently influence you to stay still. good job on those two girls.
Its kl, i already knew that anyways, i wasnt watching the telly to begin with so it didnt occour to me to turn it off.
I agree with this... Usually some of the first advice i give. Is to turn off any noise. One time i wanted to see what it was like to listen to Bjork when i did my salvia. One of the worse mistakes i have ever made... I had the wierdesst effects while listening to that with salvia and Bjork is so dark it made it sooo scary. I had to remember to keep myself calm. Take deep breathes and meditate. Soo did you like it? what did you think of it?
Make sure you keep the flame to the salvia the whole time. You dont light it and let it go like weed - you hold the flame to it THE WHOLE TIME. Other than that, go in to it respectfully, be prepared for a psychedelic ass whooping that may take weeks for you to get over, and good luck to you.
of course i can. who am i kidding, i'm probably the only person in the world who actually watched that movie..
Hmm im in 2 minds about the trip. It wasnt a bad trip as such, like i wasnt scared or anything but the confusion pissed me off abit haha. I even rewinded the programme that was on the tv to the scene i was tripping to, to see if that guy was actualy in the programme and it turns out their wasnt any guys talking to the camera, that was fucking weird pml. After the trip i felt amazing, really relaxed and happy. I would do it again for sure, hasn't put me off.
My understanding was that the chemical in salvia does not survive long after the herb is smoked. So the smaller pipes work best. Jet lighter helps. I've tripped on salvia a handful of times and I never go out of my way to buy it. Not worth the money, maybe when I'm at a more spiritual time in my life.