going to loose my 2C-E virginity

I've heard good things about MDMA + 2ce. 2cesarewild used to talk about it often. I think "razor flip" would be a better nickname for it. haha It fits well with 2ce's chaotic nature.

Yeah I suspect 2cb + aces was a nice combo. I can't even imagine how colorful it must've been. lol

I'm thinking something along the lines of 25mg 2ce and 30mg aces, to start. That should be interesting. If I like it as much as I expect to, then I'll try it again with appropriate dosage tweaks.

 

i don't mind the name sparkle flip. 2ce is indeed very sparkly for me. the last time i took it (july before a minus the bear concert) i was vaping some cannabis, and as the plastic bag filled up with vapor and wrinkled and expanded, colorful little sparkles were bursting all over the place. then i got to see more sparkles at the concerts lightshow.

neuro, when was the last time you had some 2ce? about how many times have you taken it?

be careful mixing 2cx with mdma guys...


with 2ce, i find quite a bit of difference with 6 mg. the difference between 14 and 20 mg is VERY noticeable for me

 

Ya, I did too. Partly why I thought I'd post that experience. And that was the big reason for wanting to go conservative the first time. Still glad I decided to bump it up a little the first time after your post.

Thanks, I'm hoping so too. I'd also dig doing a trip with one other person, at the moment I'm not sure any of the people I know well enough to consider tripping with, would be game.

 

Ya, exactly. If I have an experience I feel I could relate well enough and someone would benefit from, I might be motivated, otherwise going into too much detail just feels like self aggrandizing.

Wow, really? Maybe thats the case at 50mg or so. For me the 2 trips I've had feel really easy to steer and navigate. Not the least bit chaotic. I see chaos in the context of a trip as sometimes awesome, sometimes leading to a bad trip. I recall enjoying the feeling of 'trying to keep up'... mild chaos feeling because things come at you so fast. But true chaos, especially external, taking over the trip, not good.

 

It gets extremely chaotic at 50+mg, for me.

My last 2ce trip was only 38mg though, and it was easily the most fukt up trip I've ever had. Of course, I had just recently broken up with my fiance and was going through some other difficulties, which I'm sure played a huge part in that particular trip. I had also recently watched the entire Sopranos series, and throughout the trip, I actually thought I was part of the Sopranos' world and that someone was gonna have me "wacked"(lol) because of some of the mistakes I've made in my life. It was also the only trip where I've ever thought I actually might murder someone and, at one point, I thought I actually HAD murdered someone.

At another point during the trip, I went outside and it was raining VERY hard. The rain hitting the tin roof on the porch sounded like a chainsaw to my tripping ears and everytime I closed my eyes, I saw bodies being chopped to pieces by the chainsaw. haha At other points in the trip, I would close my eyes and see very dark images/scenes that portrayed intense emotional despair.

Like I said, I had recently broken up with my fiance and it became very obvious to me that the darkness and chaos of that particular trip correlated with my emotional state at the time, and that's also why it was so beneficial. The trip combined all of the happiness, sadness, heartache, hope, hopelessness, beauty, etc. of my recently extinguished relationship and left me feeling very very very grateful for all of it.

 

love the sig tns :sifone:

60mg 2ce was one of the most chaotic trips i've ever had on anything. like a psychedelic explosion. there was no controlling anything, there was no point from which to control anything, there was no locus of stability in which to stand. all i could do was laugh and tremble <3

 

My first time one 2C-E was nuts. I can't recall the exact dosage now, but it went down like this. Figuring I would try and get a taste of it, I cut the two tiniest lines possible. Tops, they were 5mg combined. Did those, and waited for an hour to make sure I didn't do the normal psychedelic mistake and say, "This shit is bunk, I'm going to way more." An hour later, and nothing, so I ate 30mg or so. It seemed like I was watching a film where every few frames were missing, like the effect you get if you look at someone moving around in front of a strobe light. Things sounded the same way too. I remember sometime around 2AM, retreating to my bed, and just lying there, totally lost in what was happening around me. I spent a solid hour just thinking, because that was the only thing I was able to do, aside from writhe around in ecstasy at how amazing I felt. Then from three to seven, I just sort of zoned out, totally wrapped up in the experience. Don't really remember a whole lot of what happened then, but I just know that I stayed right where I was. I made a point of locking my bedroom door before I got too far gone so that I couldn't get up and effortlessly wander out of my house and get myself in trouble. Seemed to work to, as my door was still locked when I came back into myself, as it seemed (I felt like I had returned to my body from the other side of the universe), and I still had a hard time figuring out how locks worked then.

Was an awesome time though. I have to say, I only experience the sort of introspection the op seems to want at this sort of level. I would suggest one more experience at a level that'll have you well couch-locked, and see if that fits the bill. Somewhere around 30-35mg. Looking back, after having had more experience with 2C-E, I would say those rails had kicked in, albeit subtly, and that's what really put me over the top, so I don't think 35mg orally would be too far in the gonzo direction.

 

I might have the kind of experience I'm looking for with something else.

I gotta say though... I can't imagine you could say two lines that were 5mg tops. The 2Ce I have, 5 mgs would fit on the head of a pin. Measuring out about 18 mgs, making a line out of that would have been the size of a pencil lead, maybe a 1/4 inch long.

Just guessing, you prob did a lot more than you think.

 

sounds like a night that starts with poppers and ends with a sore ass... aka.. it sounds gay

 

Perhaps, but I think not. A friend who purchased from the same source mistook oral doses for nasal, and railed 15mg with a friend. They both promptly spent about 5-6 hours scared to death as they started tripping way harder then the meant to, almost instantly. Also, it would make sense compared to the doses my scale says are ~30mg. Obviously size isn't the most accurate way to guestimate such things, but I'm fairly confident in my dosage on that one. If I messed that up, I must be a serious hard head, because that would mean a heavy nasal dose took 3 hours to fully hit me, and only got intense with the addition of a heavy oral dose. I don't think I'm that weird, and my experiences on other doses seem in line with those of others I've had similar doses with around here. Who knows, though?

 

Very true, and I guess thats why it's 'research'.

 

my toilet lost its 2c-e virginity