giving it up

taking that logic, you must know all there is to know by humans? im not trying to piss on you, im just sayin that to conclude that there is a god because you cant comprehend certain things is saying that you can comprehend everything that can occur without a god, therefor rendering the things you cant comprehend, acts of god.

when you open your eyes to magnificence, its counter-magnificent to reduce it to the work of an omnipotence, for clearly nothing is amazing if its done by an omnipotence.

whats amazing is when that seed can turn into the tree after billions of years of chemical reactions

 

first off, the fact that you were busted could have nothing to do with god. second, how is weed the devil? i dont worship weed, i just enjoy smoking it. smoking bud is halfway between hobby and addiction, not a tool for the devil's control. and one last thing; have you ever thought about the possibility that christianity isint the right religion? that the gospels are wrong? that jesus might not even have existed?

 

I never got how a lot of Christians are against smoking weed,
A lot of them act like its a mortal sin.

If god created the Earth, didn't he create weed?

Why would he make THC if he didn't want us to get high?

 

clearly you(pl) missed the point since he related teh devil to the fact that he found himself needing to get weed dispite the bad consequences to his life and relationships.

however any real christian would see cannabis was god's gift to man

 

not necessarily. if you see it from a negative perspective you could very well take it as a cursed plant (along with thorns and shit like that) that sprung up at the fall of man in the garden of eden.

haha i like all you guys but some of the religious stuff i read in here is the most uninformed bullshit ever. not pointing out anyone in particular, and i myself am agnostic, but i read this thread and have a hard time believing some stuff i read. some of these opinions, while you all have the right to have them, are pretty immature. but who am i to judge.

 

alcohol was drank by jesus, many chirstians drink it when praying to god in a ritual... why is weed any differet

 

incorrect to my knowledge. the biblical "wine" was mostly just what we consider to be high quality grape juice, and i've definetly never heard of christians getting drunk to pray (and i was raised in church since like 2 years old)

 

They don't actually get drunk, they drink wine during communion.

 

once again that 'wine' is grape juice. otherwise my church would get arrested for serving to minors (me).

 

Some churches actually DO serve wine during communion, it's only one sip, but it is wine. There are exceptions for certain laws for religious ceremonies.

 

I'm Christian too!
And I still toke, but it's your choice. See you in heaven buddy!

 

i think the whole 'wine is grape juice' thing is just a ploy by the churches to end the whole idea that they were gettin pissed. grape juice by itself is a brownish, not so tasty drink (its alright, but nothin special). i doubt that it would have been so oft used and drank. wine on the other hand has been made for a very long time, and changed grape juice into something with a completely different flavour, and of course makes it alchoholic. now the wine back then probably wasnt that strong, but it would have had alchohol nonetheless. however jesus never got drunk.

if they were poor, they would not have got grape juice to drink, but probably just water. however, wine would be like a different story all together, being like a beer to the contemporary audience.

i dunno though, thats just what i recon.

at any ratethe reason i say cannabis would be a gift to man is because it stops man from doing most of the evil things he does, like being selfish and judgemental, people are generally more chill and more the way jesus wants them to be, when stoned. however of course with contemporary cultural influence, that isnt the case with many people who smoke weed as a drug to get fucked up on, not the main use of cannabis for the last many thousands of years!

it is the most industrial useful plant and in fact the world could almost survive with just cannabis alone. hemp seed is full of proteine and omega oils, two most important nutrients for the more higher order developments like nerves and brain tissue and correct cell reproduction, etc.

its one of the easiest plants to grow. thc's uv-filtering properties in the future could come to lead to some of humanity's most important necessities, with ozone holes and space exploration and the like.

as well as this, cannabinoids have been shown to be effective medicines for various ailments.

but we know all this, dont we??

the only bad things that come from cannabis are due to modern life and culture. the commercial world, mindless entertainment everywhere, less and less nature, etc. we cant escape that now really, but back in jesus' time and the like, all this stuff was frowned apon by him, and he would have rathered his disciples lounge around, being good humans, discussing things and trying to learn or descover. this would have been what they did of course, if they got stoned.

how can such a plant be seen as anything BUT a gift, that humans could almost survive on alone?

what negative effects would there have been AT ALL in days of old? i cant see any. i think stoners back then would still have tended their crops definately. they wouldnt have sat around at home, because there wasnt endless entertainment sources, there were people to talk to , plants and animals to tend to, and maybe street performances to watch. none of these activities can be done by a lazy person.

and of course, people wouldnt have got stoned off their arses like ppl do nowadays.

 

BTW there is no mention of the "Rapture" in the Bible. I believe in God and trust and love him. The reason why I don't go to church is because I think most of them are corrupted. They have images of Heaven and Hell, and worship an icon (the Cross). In the Bible they just have an Alter, not a Cross, and it says not to worship icons, and to have no images of Heaven and Hell.

Just read the Bible and keep believing in God!

See you in Heaven brother!

Peace!