hahaha, how humiliating. seriously, though, like dave said, QUALITY of parents (and parenting) is every bit as important as QUANTITY of parents and parenting.
i'm a woman. i'm sorry if in your minds that means i can't be anti-feminist and pro-family. yes i said it. feminism is anti-family. oh well.
bullshit. yeah, maybe the extreme feminists are. most of the chicks around here who call themselves feminists are all for equality of genders and playing to their partners strengths (ie if the chick does better at parenting and housework, they can stay home. if the dude is better at it, he can stay home - assuming whoevers better wants to of course). most chicks around here arent all that extreme
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1021293/How-mothers-fanatical-views-tore-apart.html Extreme Feminism can be anti-family by the looks of this article.... Damned lesbians... :lol: p.s. I seriously didn't even look for that article, I was reading it off digg and then I came accross this post and thought: interesting....
feminism is anti-family. "no-fault" divorce = 70-80% of marriages ended by the woman. and child custody? 9 out of 10 times it goes to the woman who then lives off state aid or child support. i say "if the woman needs help she has no business with a child in the first place." the man is paying for the child, leave him with the child. the kids could do better with some discipline anyway. really you can stand up and say "not me not me not me not me" all day long but at the end of that day: yes, it is you. you know my message to the ladies in this country, particularly the feministic ones, all the ladies in their early 20's... think on this: women in their 30's and early 40's can't find a husband. they opted for career/independence and then decided to settle down. well guess what men don't want a 30 or 40 year old and they definitely don't want no career woman. and when they do get married do you think they'll be happy with the fact that most women can't even cook and get upset when asked to do chores? there is a lower rate of marriage then a few years ago,and it's getting lower. i feel bad for all the 20 somethings who think just because they're women they own the universe- the universe is going to laugh in your face when you turn 30, realize it was all for nothing and you feel utterly alone, want a child and a man to take care of you- but can't find it. with more and more men talking about the dangers of marriage, pretty soon not very men will want to get married at all. i think that's why i see so many women get used for sex. you think you can have it all but all you're doing is reducing yourselves to nothing more than mere sextoys.
Oh please. Children can be raised by divorced parents as long as both parents make sure to be there for them every step of the way. By the way, who are you speaking to in the phrase I bolded? Because you don't know any of the women here and you have no right to call them sex toys. As if all we do is preen and hope that we could snag some gold someday! Want a child and a man? You know, some women actually strive for more than that in their lives. I'm not saying being a mother is not a worthy cause, because it is. But not all women want that, and not all women should. Some people aren't cut out to be parents. Marriage does not make a family. LOVE does. If there is love and nurturing in a family and balance between the roles, it doesn't make a difference if the parents are married are not if they take care of and love their children. you sound miserable. and paranoid. so paranoid about what other women think and feel... get over yourself. it sucks you can't get a man for the reasons you mentioned, but you don't have to blame us. just brush up on your cooking and housecleaning skills, get a facelift and take a class on submission. you'll find your man alright.
"Oh please. Children can be raised by divorced parents as long as both parents make sure to be there for them every step of the way." uh right and how is a father supposed to be there "every step of the way" when his mother denies visitation rights, or makes false allegations of abuse? or moves to another state? right- it's obvious you have very little experience. "Want a child and a man? You know, some women actually strive for more than that in their lives." until their biological clock kicks in. tick tock goes the biological clock. "If there is love and nurturing in a family and balance between the roles" honey you are so misguided and can't even take a stance. what is your stance? lol is it balanced roles (traditional) or is it women's lib? hehehehehe. "you sound miserable. and paranoid. so paranoid about what other women think and feel... get over yourself. it sucks you can't get a man for the reasons you mentioned, but you don't have to blame us. just brush up on your cooking and housecleaning skills, get a facelift and take a class on submission. you'll find your man alright." as i've already stated in a previous thread i'm happily married to a very decent man and we take care of eachother in complimentary roles. thanks for your concern, though! you're going to be the one who turns 30 and looks around and goes "oh shit! i better snag a man before it's too late!" but it already will be. so sad for you. all the high fives in the world won't fix that mess! lol speared
Someone has issues and a possible chip on their shoulder I still have no idea what you're supposed to be ranting about But you seem to be an angry feminist from what I can gather...
Quit putting words in my mouth bitch. I don't even like men (except as friends). I don't need anyone but myself. I didn't know you were married, but that's nice for you. You don't sound very happy though. Look, obviously I don't have experience with kids because I don't have them. But if I ever did end up married or having children, I would never do those things you mentioned to a man. Children should have both parents, except in a case where one is abusive. I thought my stance was quite clear. People who want to get married should get married. People who don't, shouldn't. And if you do, the partnership should be equal terms or at least on a set of terms agreed on by both parties. Hon, you said women's lib, not me. I'm not a feminist, I believe in equality for everyone. And balance is different for everyone, it's none of your fucking business how people in relationships go about them. People should do what they want. You can't do anything but insult people. Your points are moot (sorry).
"I still have no idea what you're supposed to be ranting about But you seem to be an angry feminist from what I can gather..." hahaha! good one. "Quit putting words in my mouth bitch. I don't even like men (except as friends). I don't need anyone but myself." awwww shhh shhh calm down sweetie. don't be so angry. i know, my points are hitting very close to home and it stirs up all your feelings of frustration and angst, but that's no reason to insult me and act like a child. "I didn't know you were married, but that's nice for you. You don't sound very happy though." nice one! again, you girls come up with such silly ideas. i am very happy with my husband. what i am not happy with is all the misguided princess-wannabes out there. oh well- you only hurt yourselves in the end! "Look, obviously I don't have experience with kids because I don't have them. But if I ever did end up married or having children, I would never do those things you mentioned to a man. Children should have both parents, except in a case where one is abusive." sure, you can do the whole "not me! i'm not like that" act all day long if you like. but there's your little loophole: "abusive". the definition of "abusive" amongst women these days has gone so far as to include "expecting the woman to do any domestic work" and "facial gestures." oh no, your husband made a face at you, better steal the kids away and slap him with child support cuz he's so abusive. lol "I'm not a feminist, I believe in equality for everyone." LOL!!!!!!! so you're admitting the feminism is not about equality, but a "women can be queens and have it all" mentality? "You can't do anything but insult people. Your points are moot (sorry)." hahaha girl you almost made me spit out my coffee with that one! i'm not the one ranting and raving calling people "bitch". lol oh dear.
"I don't even like men (except as friends). I don't need anyone but myself." talk to me when you're 30 lolololol
is that how you talk to your children? haha. princess? please. when did i say that? i'm not one of those girls who needs presents and money to be happy. and what makes you think me, or any other woman here IS like that? are all women evil? well, not you. you're perfect! i was not speaking particularly of abuse toward women (though it does happen, and by abuse I mean beatings), i was speaking of fathers who abuse their children. if a man is hitting, molesting, or brainwashing his children, she has every right to kick him out. when did i say that? i said i believe in EQUALITY for everyone. when did i say women can be queens and have it all? can you quote me please? since when does "equality for everyone" mean "women are spoiled brats"?
meh, ive already found the man i want to spend my life with (and he wants to spend his with me too, hurrah) and im in my 20s. now youre going ot spout off on how one example doesnt mean anything, but you should remember that a lot of your generalities arent applicable to folk here... we arent exactly the epitome of normal in this form
"i was speaking of fathers who abuse their children. if a man is hitting, molesting, or brainwashing his children, she has every right to kick him out." heh. i hate to break your paradigm but... it's mostly mothers who do the abusing/molesting/brainwashing of children.