Girls, is your current Husband/boyfriend your best ever lover. And.......

Its not always that simple.

 

I completely understand this, and am living it as well.

 

my wife would tell you that your life is like this because you tolerate it.

That sounds cruel, but at a certain level it is true. I may be crude but women give their pussies away like smiley faces from a Walmart greeter, when their vaginas are worth so much more.

If you are constantly sleeping with men who do not think you are awesome then you are sleeping with the wrong men. Women have all the burdens in life, raising kids, making a home, keeping a relationship going, at the very least you should start off with someone who is in awe of you. Every woman can be desirable for someone. Once a man comes around smelling your honey,make sure he is decent and has a job and he has a cock that fills you up and satsfies you. I know this is a Hippy forum but men who's major goal in life is to get stoned do not make good life partners, no offense.

for all you know your man is taking you for granted. Maybe if he were confronted with the choice of growing up or losing you he might grow up. If he doesn't he wasn't worthy of you to begin with. if you end up single don't make the mistake of hooking up with more loser men, just get a big fucking dildo that fills you up and spend more time with your girlfriends and read some love stories. Maybe eventually Mr Right will come along but if he doesn't at least you won't be disappointed by another Mr Wrong.

 

You seem to presume that the women in these relationships seemingly are only going along with it for their husbands rather than, like most of what I've seen, enjoying the openness that their husbands have given them. It's almost like you're trying to white knight women who don't really need, or want, it.

 

Well, why not ask the women then?

Women: would rather have an open relationship with complete sexual freedom?

OR

a passionate consuming love with a jealous man who would not tolerate anthing but strict monogamy?

 

This idea encourages women to use sex to manipulate and control men in a very cynical way, which has been going on for centuries. It's time for society to advance beyond this immature behavior. Women no longer have to trick men to get what they want.

Jealousy is a very ugly trait to see in anyone, male or female. It brings out the worst in everyone involved.

FX isn't listening to you, or to anyone else. Men like him only wait their turn to continue their monologues, to get the attention that feeds their out of control egos. Brace yourself for ten more paragraphs of his standard 1950's vintage rant.

 

True. I don't think anyone should be placing pussy on a pedestal. I don’t believe a woman is any better or more valuable than a man just because she has a pussy. Thinking like that is exactly how people get the selfish mindsets that are being peppered around this thread.

I'm assuming Fx was trying to make the point of having self-value and self respect overall (whether male or female), not pussy value. But that should be made clear.

 

wrong, wrong, wrong. I do not believe women should manipulate men to get what they want, rather they should stop allowing themselves to be manipulated by men to give them what they want without giving back anything in return. Women consistently undervalue what they have to offer. Too often they endure crappy, even abusive relationships because they don't believe they deserve any better. Every woman deserves to be treated with respect, honesty and equality.

thanks for pointing that out. yes, I mean women should have strong self esteem and positive body images and not feel they are inferior because they are not a size 4. There is more to a woman than her looks.

I never call women 'honey' or 'babe'. I don't make crude suggestions and I never presume that a woman can't do her job as well as a man. I not only have a wife, I have a daughter and I want her to feel that no man can rule her.

 

O.K Jacob......

 

fx20736.....I like being with my son so that is why I stay. I like my son to be close to his father so that is why I've asked him to stay. Right now it's very convenient, and working out. I don't tolerate it, I live my own life which, in addition to many other good things, happens to be full of fun with men. But I didn't answer your question so that i could be counsceled. I know exactly what I'm doing.

 

well, you never mentioned children before. Staying for your child is very noble and selfless and is as good a reason as there is.

 

Thanks. Just buying time, trying to get a job, and getting in as much fun as possible.

 

You know what the funny thing is? Pretty much all of my close female friends (current ones and ones that have lost touch) have been in relationships with "jealous men" where it didn't go well at all.

Jealous men don't make for good husbands, boyfriends or even guys in the friend zone. Because if she does something that the jealous man sees as out of sorts, then that paranoia, second guessing, doubting and mistrust sets in and all sorts of fucked up behavior can result. It also leads to these men treating their women like they are their own property.

 

i would like to chime in and say slutty wemen dont make good wives or mothers and most often lead men to act out in crazy uncontrolabe ways do to the wife not being or acting in faithfull ways and or doing deceptive things to get what they want . iv seen this in many relationships that fail and the worst part is the woman gets to walk away from the relationship looking like she was a victom and telling everbody what an abusive control freak her ex was . yet the truth be told she was playing games the whole time that lead to all the misstrust witch in turn brings out the jeliosy 'witch is a programed feeling like happieness or being sad' then on comes the violence because whats the most comon human responce to the feeling of loss "weather it be the controll or your wife " anger..... iv been married once for seven years and still am , weve talked about an open relationship and for now we agree its not for us even though the thoght is atractive and exciting . we were both wild and free ppl that were on the move and had many partners .way more than avrage ppl . the biggest problem with ppl today is lack of comunication due to the fact there afraid to hurt there loved ones feelings or lieing for the same reson. for example my wife and i are the best sex each other has had yet i dont have the biggest dick shes had and she dosent have the tightest pussy iv had and we both know this. she thinks of other men sometimes when we have sex i think of other wemen and we talk about it during sex . the worst part is you probbly wont ever be able to fix what your in now due to him being to insecure now to tell the truth too. and by the way yes im a possecive man and my wife is a possecive woman when you love something you dont want to chance lossing it. i was 32 when i found the first woman i considerd being worthy of being a mom and a wife im not willing to wait anouther 32 years waisting time with wemen that dont know who they are what they want or looking for a free ride from a man that will treat them like there a queen 24/7 .iv yet to see any woman treat me like im a king 24/7. there is allways a flip side of a coin and allways two sides to a story maybe you should slow down and take a look at your own actions before you put your husband infront of the buss for the whole world to bash. iv seen my freinds go through this with there ex whore wives and its B.S. mind you im not saying your a slut or a whore ,only a person that can be honist with themself can asses this.

 

So what your saying is..... If one couple love each other, and the man is great in bed, and he is cool with his girl playing with another guy, that's O.K. They're enhancing their sex life.... But if you have another couple who love each other, and the man is not so great in bed, and he is also cool with his girl playing with another guy, that's not O.K. She's a gold digger and he is weak.

Dude, you have some strange fucked up logic going around in that head of yours!

You also seem to be putting your own spin on things. The dude didn't say that his girl told him he was shit in bed. He said that they have a good sex life but that her lover is some kind of uber porno super stud.

 

What we’re saying is that there’s a big difference between one partner electing to fuck other people because their significant other cannot satisfy them sexually, vs. a couple that is very satisfied with each other sexually and chooses to heighten that satisfaction by engaging in an open relationship “together.”

No, that's not what he said. Go back and read the whole thread. He was VERY clear that his girl was not satisfied with him sexually for a variety of reasons.

 

I could have swore that Jacob implied that the sex they have is good, but her sex drive is often higher than his - hence letting her see other guys.

 

My right hand says I'm the best. My left hand disagrees, the unfaithful bastard.....

 

Whether the sex is good for him or not, she's not satisfied with him sexually. And he gave off a whole laundry list of reasons why.

 

He said good in general. There's a difference between not satisfying someone and not satisfying them completely.