Girls, is your current Husband/boyfriend your best ever lover. And.......

All I was trying to do was to hear your estimation of what percentage engage in what I described. Everything I hear is that 50% of all married people cheat on their spouses at least once.

 

I don't think there's any way to find out. I wouldn't trust a so-called anonymous survey. If they know how to contact me, then they can find out who I am, if they really want to. It's always safer to tell outsiders, "No, I've never tried anything like that."

Too bad, I'd like to see a demographic breakdown, if we could get honest answers. I would expect to see a lump in the curve for people who were teens in the '60's and '70's, and another one for those who are too young to remember the AIDS/HIV panic of the late '80's and early '90's.

 

And? Why does what's normal matter? The idea of a couple being so trustful and honest with each other that they can get past that and be with others while maintaining and, perhaps, strengthening their relationship - I think that's awesome.

It's great that monogamy and "normal" behavior works for you, but for some out there an open relationship has been just as good for them.

 

unf i miss my man. i wanna fuck the shit out of him.

 

I would love to sit and down and talk man to man with a husband who allows his wife to put another man's cock in her mouth and pussy and see their body language when I ask them to describe their feelings for their wife. To see what the limits of their love really are. To see what kind of friendship he has with his wife.

Also, can you describe one other example of when you would willingly share body fluids with another man?

Would you let another man use your toothbrush and then brush your teeth right after?

would you put on another man's soiled underwear?

would you allow another man to reach across a restaurant table and take bites of your dinner? Let him sip your beer?

The idea that you would put your tongue in your wife's mouth or lick her pussy after another man ejaculated into it is not just morally abhorrent, it is
hygenically repulsive.

Finally, if your wife craves the sensation of a larger penis inside her, why not just get a dildo? You can achieve exactly the same thing, unless of course there are other motivations here like humiliation or violating taboo behaviors.

no matter how you slice it, any married person who has other sex partners is stating ipso facto that their spouse is not enough for them sexually. What an ego crushing realization that your spouse needs more than you can give them, a bigger cock, more ejaculatory control, better looks, a nicer body, whatever, in the end admitting that you or your spouse needs other sex partners to feel fulfilled, to be happy is to claim the other person is inadequate because if someone like jacobklein had a monster cock and could control his orgasms would his gf still be fucking the 'bull'? What does that do for someone's sense of self worth? It's a variation of the teen phrase "I like you as a friend", i.e you are good enough to hang out with, just not good enough to be romantic with.

My wife and I agree that the two most important aspects of a marriage are trust and respect. I'm sorry but in their heart, no woman can truly respect her man if he allows or tolerates her fucking someone else. It's like a disobedient child testing their boundaries, to see what they could get away with.

If my wife were to come home and say she wanted to go out for a drink with another man, I would say no, not if she wanted to stay my wife. There is a high cost in being my wife. I would not tolerate any socializing with another man, I demand full accountability but there is also tremendous benefit.

I get up and start her car when it is cold and brush the snow off. She doesn't have to pump gas. I do the dishes every night after dinner. I do housecleaning and laundry, I go out on Sunday mornings to get her Starbucks. I bring her dinner when she gets stuck at work, I am always the one to get up in the morning and take the dog out and feed him. I make sure that I tell her I love her every day and every day I remind her how beautiful and sexy she is. I thank her every time she makes dinner or Sunday Breakfast. I surprise her every few months by sending her flowers. I put her first always.

If I thought for one second I was inadequate or not good enough I would be gone. My wife looks up to me, is impressed by my intellect and is more than sexually satisfied, in fact she could not keep up with me. There are times when she says her pussy hurts from the size of my cock and I still have enough libido that if I were inclined I could easily have another woman but I don't want to.For the rare occasions when I am horny and she is asleep and does not want to be woken I can jerk off if need be, that happens 2 or 3 times a month.

I said my wife looks up to me, literally. I am 6'2" she is 5'2". I am older and smarter. I have a wicked sense of humor, am a man of my word, I am selfless, I am attentive, doting even and affectionate. I would lay down my life in a heartbeat for her. She will never ever meet a man like me, not in two lifetimes. Why would she want any other man?

I certainly don't want any other woman.

Why would any married couple want it any other way?

 

Why does one person find a joke funny and not personally offending while another finds the same joke completely inappropriate?

Answer: they see and interpret the same act/scenario differently.

 

Judging by your responses in this thread and unwillingness to accept any views to the contrary, it'd be you trying to verbally tower over him in an attempt to intimidate that person into accepting your own singular, narrow world view.

And to answer that question: Because they're different than you. They have different tastes, different things that work for them, different turn ons, interests, etc. And that's the whole point of this. Monogamy works great for you and your wife? GREAT! You don't have to point it out every other post and then espouse in detail why your marriage works, how it works, why you don't need anyone else and why your wife doesn't need anyone else and so on and so forth. It's not where this conversation is. It's about your lack of willingness to understand why other couples would choose to go about their married lives differently than you and your inability to conceive that those couples are happy. Hell, they might actually have happier relationships than yours, considering that the husbands seem to be incapable of being THIS controlling:

Right now, I'm currently single. And I'm almost 100% sure that if I had this kind of attitude towards any woman I'd wind up dating, a cold stare ("the look", if you will) would be the least of my problems.

 

To everyone, why does someone who is confident about their decision irritate you so much????????????

Honestly, if my husband felt about me like FX feels about his wife, I would be touting for monogamy, loyalty, devotion, and lasting marriage too.

I get shit for having a fuck buddy....or two, or three, and always looking for more.

It seems being open is risky.

 

Some would find that situation to be a bit claustrophobic.

 

For myself, I'm not one to denigrate someone else's lifestyle decision. Monogamy is cool. If that's what works for them, it works. Same for open relationships. I just think the animosity towards the latter by FX is verging on the side of the ridiculous.

 

ok, fair enough.....and he is receiving animosity as well.

 

I wouldn't give you shit. But hipforums is all about uptight repressed people pretending to be cool so they can shit on people who ARE cool and aren't uptight or repressed.

If it yanks your crank, do it.

 

The reality is most men are selfish assholes and women are the ones who make everything work in the world.

My wife has 2 Master's Degrees and makes almost twice as much as me. She not only works her ass off but is a mother and a wife who is active in school activities.

My mother was a college professor with a Phd who was the major breadwinner for the last 30 years of my parent's marriage.

Both of my grandmothers, born before the First World War ended up earning college degrees, a real rarity in those days and neither side of my family ever had any money.

Women in my family have always been smart, strong and successful professionals. My father and grandfathers treated their wives like Queens.

In return, the men had loyal wives right by their side until the last breaths left their bodies.

That's the world I grew up in, yet I hear of men who don't help with child rearing, who care more about buying Harley Davidsons then making sure their wives have decent cars to drive and who routinely cheat.

A man who wants his wife to fuck another man has no respect for her. He is in fact treating her like a whore.

Maybe more men should watch the scene below, my favorite scene, from my favorite movie Rab ne Bana di Jodi (The movie is in Hindi, here with English subtitles):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAICyWCz7CM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAICyWCz7CM

 

The real fact is that you have no room in your narrow view of relationships that would see two consenting adults openly enjoying sex with others while remaining emotionally loyal to each other as legitimate, regardless of what form it takes. It must be sad to be so single minded and judgmental.

 

There was a bi - sexual couple last year in my town advertising for either single males / females or married couples top join them for sex. Options were for just watching them have sex or to join in - which ever you liked?

 

I thought the post of Karen's that you have highlighted was directing at Jacobklein85, and that he has already answered it perfectly well! I agree about what she says with regard to oral, hands, dildos etc. That's how my Man gets me off. I'm not sure what she means when she says..........

"A man who gives up and turns it over to somebody else is just a loser."

That cannot refer to anyone on this thread, so I'm not sure what she means! I would not call a anyone a loser myself, unless they deserve it. If a couple are in a Poly relationship, and the Man has a very low libido, so much so that the Woman needs to take a lover, does that make him a loser? No, of course it doesn't. It just means he has a low libido! So yeah, that was a dumb thing to say! Also, you have made no valid points in this thread!

I would say that Jacob is his girls Cuckold! I think that she wants both him, because she loves him, and he loves her and looks after her and the boy, but she also wants the awesome sex that she has with her lover, but does not want Jacob going with other girls! I think that she did her best to turn him on to the idea by teasing him while playing with his cock, and thankfully for her, Jacob went for it, and now allows her to see her lover. I think that it's really cute!

 

I don’t know how many different times and ways it has to be said for it to register in your little brain. I swear, trying to have a conversation with you is like talking to a brick wall :banghead:. The point is (for the umpteenth time), why would anyone want to be with someone who was unable (or unwilling) to satisfy them sexually?

Well there you go Karen. Sounds like she’s calling you (or at the very least your statements) dumb

That’s great. I do have to give that girl props. She laid the game down on him like only a true player could. Not only does she have him on lock, but she also worked it so she can have her dick on the side too! That is some serious game! She’s living every gold digger’s dream.

 

Exactly!!! And why does she get to play her game? Because jacobklein lets her!!!

Put the shoe on the other foot. Imagine a wife saying: I love my man but I know I'm not enough for him. I'll be faithful to him, raise our kids, cook his meals, clean our house and have sex with him whenever he wants but when he wants more I won't interfere. In fact, I'll even watch and participate when he has sex with his girlfriend. I won't get jealous of the fact that his girlfriend is much younger, has a nicer body with bigger tits, a flatter stomach and according to him, a tighter pussy. It doesn't bother me to see the man I love with his face buried in her pussy or see him fucking her like a wild dog. In fact, I'm just grateful I get to suck my man's cock clean after he blows his load inside his girlfriend.

Can't blame jacobklein's gf, she is just taking what is offered but I can't understand his decision to allow it. What is so special about her that he will let her fuck another man just so he can be with her?

I think the world of my wife, there is no other woman for me but that feeling has developed over time. Love needs time and devotion to grow to the point where you could not/ would not want to be with anyone else. If a few months into our relationship my then girlfriend, now wife said she wanted to have another partner I would have ended it.

I said that trust and respect are the two most important things in a relationship. You have to respect your partner but you also have to respect yourself enough to say you are good enough, all by yourself for someone who would want you and only you. Jacobklein may as well say "I'm not much of a man, I should be grateful to have her, even if it means letting her have another sex partner, after all I have a little dick and suffer from premature ejaculation". He says his sex drive isn't so high, why not find a woman who doesn't need sex 2 or more times a day? A woman he can more than satisfy? To my wife, my 7 3/4 inches is more than enough but to some women my cock would barely be adequate. If you've had a 10" cock mine doesn't look all that impressive by comparison so for a woman who needs a monster cock why not leave her and find a woman who is happy with what you've got?

Most of us are not beautiful or particularly sexy. most people you pass by and think nothing about, but the woman you barely notice might be another man's dream girl.

Each one of us have a unique set of positive attributes that will appeal strongly to someone. I am tall. My wife likes that. Not every woman cares about a man's height. I am a sloppy dresser, who cares nothing about clothes. I wear jeans and flannel shirts, work boots or sneakers or Nike flip flops, around the house I wear boxers and t-shirts. The way I dress would be a really turn off to some women. I am wound a little tight, hate noise and chaos and a messy house. When I see these things I get annoyed and start yelling. for some women that would be a turnoff. I really don't like to go out more than once a month. I prefer to stay at home. That would be boring to some women. I hate seeing mindless crap on the TV. Most of the time, if I am in the room there better be a baseball,hockey or football game on or I get really irritated. Again, probably a big turn off for a woman who wants to watch American Idol or NCIS or Biggest Loser. I have Parkinson's Disease. I need help shaving, have difficulty eating with a fork, can't chop an onion, can't use a screwdriver anymore. Lots of women couldn't deal with that.

But despite all those things my wife wouldn't trade me for anyone else.

there is a woman out there that would probably be very happy with jacobklein and only him.

Why sell yourself short? Why settle? How do you expect people to respect you when you don't respect yourself?

Have respect for everyone, yourself included. Find someone you can trust and talk to. It doesn't matter if there is an immediate physical attraction. Plant the seed and let love grow.

 

I would say yes, unless he has an untreatable medical condition.

Go to hell. I'm done with you.

This is what I usually get when I make an effort to get along with other women. You were right about her, and I was wrong.

 

So lets say you have a girlfriend that is in a relationship with a guy! Her sex drive is not as high as her man's which is a very common thing. She tells you that her man tells her that she is a useless lover, her pussy is loose and not very satisfing and she just isn't enough to please his high sex drive. So he suggests to her that he takes on another lover, but there is no way she can do the same. Would you tell her that she should, because you think it is really cute? Or is it only really cute when it is the other way around and the woman gets to take on another lover?