girls, I can use your help.

if you are good at art then you should draw her up a card with a sweet little note. girls love this type of sentimental crap. i had an ex that saved every note, or card, or piece of art i ever gave her in a little scrapbook and i know for a fact she still flips through it fantasizing about romance.

just like, a picture of a lighthouse with the words "thinking of you." and that's all I'd do. and maybe I'd call and make sure she got it.

i think the key to that move is to expect absolutely nothing in return. but you still have to ask for something, like that second date.

good luck bro, but flowers are way sappy. it shouldnt cost you anything to get a girl to be your valentine.

 

Okay, then don't play the "stupid game". Tell her whatever you want, we're just trying to help.

 

i wouldnt do this unless you can make it funny...girls like funny. girls don't like cheesy until they're head over heels in love, which doesnt happen after one date. stick with funny. actually, thats great advice...keep a girl laughing and she'll be yours forever.

 

So no flowers. I got it. Ordered CD instead.

I just found out that I have so much to learn from all of you.

 

Thats why you asked

 

New update.

I just got a call from her and she sounded very happy to talk with me.
She told me that she was sick and missed my call, and she will call me again very soon.

I guess things haven't totally go south yet. But no matter what, my lacking of experience is still a bomb in this situation.

Let me introduce myself a little.

I am 32, 6feet, not bad looking, corporate guy. I don't have too much experience with girls. Well, I am an actuary, a math person. I tend to put everything into an equation. And you guys have convinced me that I am a shithead in dating.

So, what should I do now? I just ordered her favorite Cd and canceled the order of the flowers, well, not really canceled, I just told the florist keep the money and please don't deliver the flowers. Should I order flowers again? I am sorry...

 

i thought you were like 15... lol. you probably have more going for you than you think

 

Invite her to dinner. If she comes then she probaby wants to. Geddit??????? If she comes she probaby wants to come HAHAHHA I'm so funny. Nah um invite her to dinner and when you're having dinner THEN put on her favourite CD. Wait for her to recognise who it is she is hearing and once she knows then show it to her and i dunno give it to her if she wants it or not but if she is yours you will stil have it anyway. Talk about the future. Girls apparently like that.

 

I shipped CD to her directly as a birthday gift.
Dinner sounds nice. How about inviting her to go to the beach with me on labor day weekend. I could book a hotel room with an ocean view for couple of nights. Would that be appropriate?

Future? I'd like to talk about future, I am afraid to scare her away though.
As we all know, 15 years old probably knows girls more than I do.

 

dude...quite a leap from date to cd to labor day weekend.....but it has been done...i say pull back the reigns a bit though and do a ''lets hang out over labor day week end''inquiry and take it from there...good luck and dont forget about that soul thing in my first post

 

yikes...what girls have you been hanging around that like to talk about the future after one date? you guys are leading this poor guy astray....don't talk about the future, be in the moment. she'll think thats sexy and it will add mystery.....you really, really want to keep some mystery. its not game playing, its just protecting yourself while intriguing her. You always wanna keep the upper hand...i always tell my girlfriends this, but it applies to guys too...always keep them wanting more. don't give too much of yourself right away, keep it light and casual. Oh and i would really advise against inviting her for an overnight trip, she'll go from being excited about a second date to being completely uncomfortable that you planned that just to get her into bed. save the overnight trips for after you have sex with her.

 

I just found out that I made a mistake. I sent a message to my sister yesterday about I canceled the flowers and ordered cd instead. But I sent the message to the girl directly. OopS, it was a clumsy screw up, no wonder why she called me.

I told my sister about this, she laughed so bad. What do you guys think? Is it a good screw up or bad screw up? I know it is laughable , damn!

 

This is the best advice yet, live in the moment and be spontaneous, DONT TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE. The overnight thing is too much too soon, like Meliai said she will just think your trying to get laid.

 

Noted.
Thanks Maliai . I am not really in a hurry to have sex with her either. So no future talks.

 

I am a love guru if you need advice in the future don't hesitate to ask me, I have a very swell understanding of what turns both men and women off early on in a relationship. Now, once you get past the 6 month point i'm hopeless, committment isn't my forte..but playing it cool and making someone fall in like with you in the early, getting to know you stage...that I can do!

 

i never said kissing on the first date , but no kiss after 2nd date, = friend zone

 

Play it cool. Seeming eager will be the worst thing you can do.

 

Seriously? Now I feel pressure. Maliai , when will be a right moment to kiss a girl?

 

Take her out for a early dinner to a nice place, not real expensive but not a shithole either, after dinner ask if she would like to go for a walk. ( try and time it so the sun is setting) Maybe do dinner and a movie and the little walk between. Anyway while walking try and hold her hand, if she lets you , your in. Dont go for a big makeout session unless its her lead, just a light kiss and a big hug, then I'll call you tomorrow have a nice night.

 

How old are you again? Dooode! Like way too weird, man! You'll know when the time is right for kissing when it comes. And if it's not....