getting heroin

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  1. Shocbomb

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    The first few times you try Herion all it really does is make you sick.99% of the people I know got sick as a dog the first time they sniffed a bag or even a half of a bag of herion and really got high on it. Its not really until between the 2 and 4th time you feel the real effects from the drug and the high. I know for me it was the 3rd time I sniffed a half a bag I got high off of it. When that Herion hit me I feel in love with the feeling that shit gave right then and there, It was unlike any drug I had ever done you just can't really explain the high. Its kind of like trying to explain to someone what a trip on LSd or Shrooms is like you just can't.If you have never had the experience of tripping you can't really explain what its like to others at all.In my opinion those are the only 2 substances you can't explain to people what they are like. Hard core hallucinogens like LSD,DMT,Shrooms etc and hard core opiates like Herion. I guess the best way to explain Herion is like a Warm security blanket of love and joy being wrapped around you the whole time you are high.It makes the feeling of X and coke look like dog shit. You feel fucking great you think every thing is great and you are friends with every one. Life could not look better at the time when you are high.The warm feeling inside you is like when you know you are loved that warm energy that takes over.And that does not even explain it right.The thing that makes Herion so fucking addictive is Its so hard to not want to be like that all the time after you first feel the high. Its human nature to want to feel good and this shit does that. But little do you kow its a fake reality and fake emotions. And it takes the hard way usally for people to find that out. But every thing that is so great about it is that much worse on the down side.Its a substance that people who have an addivtive personality should just not mess with at all.I will become there down fall, Thr odds are there life will be caught in the on going circle of addiction. Whic sucks big ass Dog nuts let me tell you. No high or substance is worth the horrors of Addiction.Ounce you get caught up in Herion or Hard core opiate use its so fucking hard to get back out and back to real life with out wanting it running threw your veins all the time. I have seen it ruin so many good people and friends.I cringe at the idea of kids even wanting to do even try it let alone at such a young age.Thats why I am so against hard drugs on hear especially when youg kids want to try them, I know dam well I am a hypacrite becasue I still use hard drugs form time to time like Herion and coke and preach to others not to. But I know dam well my life would of been a hell of alot easier if I did not become a addict and live a drug life style in my late teens threw my mid 20's. I am so lucky I am not in prison.Homeless or even Dead right now.No drug or feeling like I said is worth your life. please just fucking think about all drugs before doing them. And if you do use don't use all the time thats when drugs become an addiction when you use just to use.
     
  2. Guitar

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    I know what you mean when you say it takes a couple times to really experience and enjoy the high. The first time I did opiates, I got an 80 mg pill for 20 bucks. Didn't know anything about it so I just popped the whole thing. Got incredibly sick but the few minutes of feeling good was enough to wanna try it again. I guess it's because your body becomes more accustom to the chemical, and adapts better to it when you do it.
     
  3. Gsmall

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    Well, your obviously wrong. Im already ahead of kids my own age you cant just say some one doesnt know something just because theyre at a certain age if you havent noticed then your very ignorant. My proof is 12 year olds graduating college.. I can say i know more then a lot of people your age too. Also dont assume ive done a lot of drugs though i have but not heroin or meth. I already have enough respect dont think im going to lose any. Well, moneys not a factor in this when your 15 and made a game ;) another point proven. I do admit a lot of kids my age are uneducated but not every one. To add you are really an insult saying your not singling me out your saying all kids are dumb.
     
  4. dan500

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    wrong
    all opiates require continual use over a period of time for physical addiction
    Im an old timer who hasnt touched dope in years but I remember how it was...

    really nice to snort a part of a bag--then a whole bag and
    then one day waking up and feeling like shit and thinking...

    heck
    that never happened before?!
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    that's how addiction works
    If one chips-(only does it weekends and now and then and can limit themselves that way)
    there is absolutely no way one can be addicted to heroin or any opiate


    to quit is a miserable 3-4 days but then it is over except for that feeling of lethargy that hangs around for awhile--let alone the shits
    and urge to use again to get thru life and job

    just let it alone
     
  5. NeuroDr

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    i dont see how u can say theres absolutely no way to get addicted if u chip....ive heard of many ppl who began by doin it once in a while, then started to get it more and more, and b4 u even realize its a daily habit...if u keep using it with any kind of frequency it seems like a tolerance should form pretty quickly so then u start using more blah blah everyone knows how that goes...i doubt heroin addicts began by shooting up daily, it had to start somewhere
    but idk, maybe one time wouldn't get everyone hooked but there are definitely those that get hooked fast
     
  6. MDA

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    Sorry to say its true, all kids are dumb. Doesnt matter if you dont think you are, all that matters is that its pretty much a fact. Its proven right in your post.

    "Well, moneys not a factor in this when your 15 and made a game ;) another point proven"

    Trying to lie about money by saying you made a "game". What does that even mean? Just some bullshit that a kid would say. Doesnt even make sense. Your reasoning doesnt make sense and thats probably the dumbest lie I have heard in a while. No one just says "Oh money's not a problem cause I made a game" Honestly, that statement alone is just some kid bullshit, some stupid shit any 15 year old would say.

    "I do admit a lot of kids my age are uneducated but not every one."

    Once again you dont even know what you're talking about. Since when are a lot of 15 year olds not in school? Most of you ARE educated. Thats not even whats in question. Being smart and experienced and having knowledge is not the same as being educated in school. Its called being alive for more then 15 years and being in the REAL world outside of school and having common sense. Something you DONT have.

    Sorry dude, you'll realize it eventually. You need to stop being a little douche and lay off the drugs. YOURE FUCKING 15 YEARS OLD KID! GO PLAY YOUR VIDEOGAME AND GET OFF DRUG FORUMS. You have no business here.

    Im not usually an asshole but im tired of little ass kids like you. Not only making up bullshit 24/7, but also thinking that trying heroin or crack is a good choice. No one cares if you do that shit when you're older, but when you're 15 you DO NOT i repeat DO NOT know whats best for you. Thats why you have parents. Shit is just so annoying.
     
  7. fibre1

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    What's with all the criticism? Heroin is not a lot different to oxy, morphine, etc. It's a safe drug for a 15 year-old. Cannabis and speed, LSD, mushrooms etc. can fuck someone that age up a lot - cause psychosis etc. Opioids are safe.
     
  8. acidtestrly?

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    "It's a safe drug for a 15 year-old"


    troll.
     
  9. fibre1

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    Side effects:


    The most serious hazard of therapy is respiratory (see also 4.9 Overdose). The most common side effects are sedation, nausea and vomiting, constipation and sweating. Tolerance generally develops with long-term use, but not to constipation. Other side effects include the following:

    Anaphylaxis: Anaphylactic reactions following intravenous injection have been reported rarely.

    Cardiovascular: orthostatic hypotension, facial flushing, palpitations, tachycardia, bradycardia.

    Central Nervous System: dizziness, vertigo, mental clouding, confusion (with large doses), hallucinations, headache, mood changes including dysphoria and euphoria.

    Gastrointestinal: dry mouth, biliary spasm.

    Disorders of the eye: blurred or double vision or other changes in vision, miosis.

    Sexual dysfunction: long term use may lead to a reversible decrease in libido or potency.

    Skin: rash, pruritus, urticaria.

    Urinary: urinary retention, difficulty with micturition, ureteric spasm, antidiuretic effect. Tolerance develops to the effects of opioids on the bladder.

    The euphoric activity of diamorphine has led to its abuse and physical and psychological dependence may occur (see also 4.4 Special Warnings and Precautions for use).



    Compare those to the adverse effects of antidepressants, antipsychotics, LSD, cannabis etc. Herion is one of the safest drugs there is.
     
  10. NeuroDr

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    those seem a lot worse than any adverse effects from mushrooms, lsd, weed...opiates are much worse for you physically, not to mention addiction and overdose potential...neither of which are characteristic of any psychedelics or weed
     
  11. fibre1

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    The only bad effects of opioids are constipation and respiratory depression - if you don't OD there's no real harm, UNLIKE hallucinogens and stimulants.
     
  12. MDA

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    They ARE worse. Shooting up heroin will have a good chance of killing you via resp. depression for someone with no opiate tolerance. That means someone jumping right to heroin being 15 years old. Very good chance of dying.
     
  13. Geneity

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    Oh, lets not forget physical and mental addiction. Seriously. lol.
     
  14. gimme_danger

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    well if this story is true, i just have a little trouble believing it because most people dont have that great euphoric experience the first time. i felt sick and itchy my first time. Anyways if you want some tips, dont make using Heroin a habit. If you are going to do it, I would seriously suggest you start off smoking it and not using a needle.
     
  15. Geneity

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    In bags and bundles it's measured. 1 bag is about 2 lines. Most will recommend you don't do an entire bag at once, but I did, and it was pretty fun, but not overly so (snorted). Bundles are 10 bags, which should be a gram. You have to take into account how much it was cut, which will usually be a lot, but not as much as coke. Just split a bag into 2 lines, snort one and see how you feel in 5 minutes.

    This has been my experience.
     
  16. fibre1

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    You can overdose on a lot of drugs. Paracetamol is harmful if you overdose.
     
  17. MDA

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    Are you totally retarded or do you just have selective reading/hearing? You can fucking overdose on any drug NO SHIT How long did it take you to realize that it was possible to overdose on drugs? Probably a while. The point about heroin is that its one of the EASIEST to overdose on. Its not measured and its potency varies bag to bag. Im so tired of people being stupid or not using their heads. Use some goddamn common sense and think about shit before you go saying whatever dumb shit comes to your mind.

    I still cant even believe you said "You can overdose on a lot of drugs"
    Like are you really that stupid? Why do you think a chemical is a drug in the first place? Cause you can fucking OD on it. Do you want me to list all the hundreds upon hundreds of drugs you can OD on? OTC, Illegal, Scripts, no fucking shit you can OD on drugs. Seriously. Who would have thought? ODing on drugs. What a suprise.

    Toolbag
     
  18. fibre1

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    You're singling out Heroin as especially dangerous, but that's :bs: . The point you made about it being 'measured in bags' -- yes this is a danger with ANY street-drug, not just Heroin, and you can get prescription diamorphine which is 100% safe and pure. So it's not the Heroin that's unsafe.


    You're making an argument against prohibition, not Heroin.
     
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    fibre 1 - Did you eat lead paint chips as Baby or something ?I just can't get over your post please man stop the stupid shit now.To even try backing up and supporting that 15 year old kids should be shooting up Herion and that Dope has no bad side effects just shows me your character and how fucked up your overall thinking is !!! Un fucking Real !!! I have been using Herion for years now but I am not going to kid myself into thinking its some safe drug that has no side effects at all.Herion is buy far the most deadly street drug in th world. There is no drug that kills users like Herion does. In all my years of using Hard drugs about 99% of all the OD's I saw and heard off were from Opiates or Opiate related. 2 OD's I saw that were not from Opiates were one coke over dose and one Benzo/Alchool od thats it. Herion OD's and Deaths on the other hand tons proably over 50 and 5 deaths of people I knew 2 of which were pretty good friends.Your post show me you know nothing at all pretty much shit about Herion or hard opiates,Go out and use Dope and be around people who use and then post please.Have you ever seen any one who has been on Herion for a period of time ? You can sit there tell me that Herion has no side effects at all when looking at the person who has been using it. Yeah sure they just look like a fucking zombie for no reason right, I guess the Herion they are using has nothing to do with the fact that there eyes are sunk into there skull and there skin is as pale as a ghost ? Please find a better point to stand up for then Herion not being that dangerous. I have seen Herion kill enuff friends ruin enuff lives over the years. I used Herion and opiates for years and they are buy no means safe at all, especially for 15 year old kids !!!!! please man think before you post wack ass shit.Whats next saying that radiation in not that Deadly eather and safe for kids to play around ?
     
  20. fibre1

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    ^^ street Heroin is cut with shit, and it's hard to know the exact dose you're taking, this is why STREET HEROIN has some risks. Pure Heroin IS SAFE. You can purify street heroin or buy good quality Heroin. Heroin is one of the safest drugs there is. It's FAR SAFER for a 15 year-old to take Heroin than any antidepressant, antipsychotic, cannabis, LSD, ...
     
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