Gay tendencies

To the OP: Everyone has homosexual thoughts. It is part of human nature, as nobody is 100% hetero or homo.

Is it natural? Yes
Is it sinful? Well, that is up to you and your interpretation of the doctrines of Christianity. However, if you do feel that they are sinful and are ashamed by them: Confess. That sacrament is there for a reason.

To others: Well I was going to type something here but then realized that the thread has turned into petty bickering!

 

King James Version, Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

 

Well, I guess that settles that! How did we manage to miss this. And does it apply to lesbians? And do you follow the rest of Leviticus too?

 

Are you a homo? Do you eat at the Y?

 

Most hardcore church people are retarded and corrupt. Spirituality>Religion. A god of love doesnt get disappointed at who you love because love is a great thing to give anyone. Always go with your heart and not the words of people and the bible.

 

The bible is full of all sorts of great, holy, and loving verses.

"Slaves, obey your human masters in everything; don't work only while being watched, in order to please men, but work wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord." (Colassians 3:22)

"Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says." (1 Corinthians 14:34)

While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

 

and last but not least

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

- 2 Kings 2:23-24 KJV

 

One would suppose that Hitler was "going with his heart" when he tried to exterminate the Jews, so that doesn't always seem to be such a good policy.

 

Nice quotes, do you have any idea what they actually mean? Taking several quotes out of the context of the whole Bible and trying to implying that means we should discard the whole Bible seems a little short sighted.

 

Why don't you explain them to us? What is the context that would make them more understandable and acceptable?

 

Don‘t you think you are being a little disingenuous? You well know that I have done so in other threads and will continue to do so and asking for such in this thread will just hijack it.

Like I just said:

Notice the context is the whole Bible, that is the context that would make them more understandable and acceptable.

 

Your interpretation of the doctrines is not always up to you though, is it.

 

Saying that the context is the whole Bible isn't helpful. How does the context of the whole Bible explain and/or justify those passages? I don't know that you have ever explained how the passages in question are illuminated by the context of the Bible. If you have, please refresh our memories by mentioning where and when this occurred. Asserting it isn't the same as explaining it. Suggesting that I'm being disingenuous is like the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.

 

Are you a Nazi, or do you like to show off your uniform just to try to prove your manhood to yourself?

 

Perhaps to you, because you pick and choose what want from the Bible but for those who use the whole Bible, they know how helpful it is.

The whole Bible tells of God’s purposes and allows you to get to know God’s personality, thus it is easier to understand why God does things and a single episode in the Bible can be seen in the light of that overall picture.

Perhaps, perhaps not but you are well aware that I’ve started threads to answer those questions and that would be the place for them to be answered and not by hijacking this thread.

Wow really, really? Imagine that!

I said that, because at that point in time, you were being disingenuous, because you know full well from the discussions that you and I have had in various threads, that I’ve spent a lot of time and effort explaining the Bible and you come off implying that I don’t. Just because you don’t agree with my explanations doesn’t mean I haven’t tried. And now again you’re trying to minimize the whole thing by implying that I’m disingenuous, why don’t you just stick to discussing the point at hand and stop making it personal?

 

So here they are again man. Explain to us how the context of the Bible makes them any better than they appear to be? If you've already done that somewhere else, tell us where.

"Slaves, obey your human masters in everything; don't work only while being watched, in order to please men, but work wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord." (Colassians 3:22)

"Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says." (1 Corinthians 14:34)

While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

 

OWB, I have a question: if the quotations that Okiefreak cited make much more sense in the context of the Bible as a whole, how come those who take the Bible as a whole pretty much never cite them, or indeed acknowledge them at all other than when they are being confronted with them by others? And how come they mostly cite quotes that make sense and seem pretty feelgood and amiable regardless of context?

 

Once again:

 

Mainly because they are a more less side point to the main theme of the Bible but are still useful for understanding the over all message of the Bible.

 

You pick the venue, man. I'll move the quotations over there and you can answer them there to avoid getting this thread "hijacked". Just tell me where.