Gay Cure MERGED

Discussion in 'Gay Polls' started by Erasmus70, Dec 18, 2005.

  1. El Guzano

    El Guzano Banned

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    dont forget a cure for circumcioners.
     
  2. GypsyPriestess

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    Ooooooh....a hit, a very palpable hit....hippypaul, I just love it when you say such thought provoking things. I can't wait to ask my mom that one!

    My thoughts exactly[​IMG]
     
  3. dmgreen

    dmgreen ~Hugz 4 All~

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    simple answer......HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. El Guzano

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    Is easy this are the type who thinks the german death camps were allright along with the spanish inquesition. or the slaughter of the native american indians, etc.
     
  5. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    The real point is that there is no cure for being gay. I once attempted to become heterosexual and it didn't work. This bears repeating; it didn't work. It seems pretty obviously that they aren't going to find a cure. Anyone who expects there to be a cure should just get over it. Gay people are here, and we're not going anywhere.
     
  6. Erasmus70

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    So you believe that the behavior is dictated by genetics. Ok.

    Nobody said anything about defective but rather would you choose to eliminate it if this becomes possible.
    There is an argument to be made that, for example, the male anus is not designed to be copulated with an erect penis without causing an unacceptable amount of damage.
    So a Parent might decide to replace the 'gay gene' with a 'hetero' gene in order to take away that risk.
    Its entirely possible.

    Well thanks for speaking for everyone else and pre-villifying those who dont agree with you or whatnot.
    There is efforts to 'repair' genetic problems by non-Nazis. Not sure if you knew that?

    If my question is preposterous then you can thank many many people before me (esp the Gay Orgs and pundits) who have been insisting that homosexuality is something you are 'born with' and is actually a genetic imperitive.

    Im not sure what you think 'self defeating' means but that was an interesting choice of words to say the least.

    Why dont you let the question stand or fall on its own.

    Once again you are insinuating its genetic?
    If you had a genetic deformity would you consider it a perfection not worth 'fooling with'?
    There is probably about 5 other topics in that comment.

    I dont have an irrational fear of homosexual sex and Im asking a question about your belief that this is a genetic condition which makes you desire sexual contact with like minded members of your gender.

    The question would and is a very valid one whether or not you believe in homophobia or not.
    The ability to eliminate the 'Gay Gene' might make homosexuality a thing of the past if enough people chose to remove it.
    Thats signifigant!
     
  7. hipunk

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    Erasmus70, I know that you can read, but something seems to misfire with your synapses between reading the written word and processing it. I wrote: "The "gay" gene has not been found," You wrote: "So you believe that the behavior is dictated by genetics." That isn't what I wrote. I believe that we are born gay. How that happens is beyond me. Since the "gay gene" hasn't been found I wouldn't hazard to speculate.



    You're talking out of your anus.



    There's that synapses problem again. If there is a "gay gene" found, it is unlikely that it would be found to be damaged. Therefore it is considered unethical to transpose that gene with a more "desirable" trait. I used eye color as an example. We should also look at left handedness, a socially undesirable trait. But if you had read my last post you would know that. Gawd you're a poop!



    You obviously have a tiny grasp of logic and the scientific process otherwise you wouldn't make such a deduction. You seem to be interested in this topic. I suggest you broaden your source of information and read some scientific journals on the topic. There are many determinants that happen before birth, other than genetics. I have yet to state an opinion on that because, scientifically, the only thing that can be agreed upon is that some of us are indeed born gay.



    That is the science fiction proposed by the x-gay movement.
    Not only does it dismiss what we know about genetics but it forces us to make a moral decision about something that has a snowballs chance in hell of happening. What you are really asking is would I wish myself or my child to be straight. Which in and of itself is a valid question. But rather than asking that question, you wrap it in some sort of scientific mumbo jumbo, where it becomes a question of repairing my gayness, and an allegory for the x-gay movement which shames me. And you are an ass for asking me that question.


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  8. Erasmus70

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    The 'Gay Gene' was not proposed and then promoted and PRed by the 'X-gay' people - it was highly touted by the 'pro-gay' crowd.
    To the point it was accepted, or at least spoken of as a 'fact' and suggesting otherwise became akin to 'homophobia'.
    In this case, I most definately do not believe there is a 'gay gene' or any biological difference which accounts for homosexual behavior.
    I can accept some sort of idea that there may be some 'predisposition' which, when combined with other factors and choices is part of the mix.

    The question is hypothetical and for a large number of people (especially those who are gay) this is something they either believe in, or suspect might be possible.
    Thats a fact.

    Whats your entire angle on this topic - that its not actually happened?
    Well great.
    Thanks, I think we all sorta gathered that by how its a 'what if' question in the first place Einstein.

    Now Im not interested in the shame you have over your actions.
    Obviously this has something to do with you and your values vs your behavior and I wish you luck in solving that.
    The question still stands here - if a drug, therapy, genetic, hormonal.. ok fine, come up with it but would you take this therapy if you knew it would change your sexual desires to Hetersexual?
     
  9. hippypaul

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    Erasmus
    If a drug, therapy, genetic, hormonal.. ok fine, come up with it but would you take the therapy if you knew it would change your sexual desires to Bisexual. After all, it would double your chances of getting a date for New Years Eve. (Grin)
     
  10. hipunk

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    good point.
     
  11. hipunk

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    I never said it was. However, spicing the "gay gene" as if it were defective in order to create a heterosexual is an x-gay prerogative.



    Then why did you ask your preposterous question?



    So is this question: When did you stop beating your wife?


    Gosh, you must only read the words you want to read, and fill in the rest. My "angle" is truth and knowledge. The truth it that a "gay gene" has been proposed, but not as a scientific fact. To repeat myself: scientifically, the only thing that can be agreed upon is that some of us are indeed born gay. I have stated my "angle" and guessed at yours. It seems like I'm right.



    And my answer still stands: that is a demoralizing and asinine question which doesn't deserve an answer.

    There is no cure. Grow up!


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  12. SageDreamer

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    What would you do if there were no hypothetical questions?
     
  13. hipunk

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    Well, for one thing I wouldn't be able to answer your question because it wouldn't exist. ;)

    I don't have a problem with hypothetical questions.
    It's hypothetical traps that bug me.
     
  14. heron

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    I am pretty sure a female anus is just the same, and i know plenty
    who love it, can't blame em either. You should try it Erasmus,
    you are a prime example of a male anus.

    And of course you dont believe in a gay gene. A "Gay Gene" is exact opposite of what Christians want. That would mean they are created and born that way, and "God" would never ever do that. That is why they have the "gay-no-more" camps, because, to them, it is just perversion of choice, not the way someone naturally is.

    I am glad for gay men, i am more comfortable around them most times, because i can be more myself without the social stigma of heterosexuality.
     
  15. Erasmus70

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    So what we have concluded is that there are people who believe this might be possible one day
    However,
    The question makes them uncomfortable and they 'feel bad' about the possible answer to it - so its therefore not 'worth answering'.
    It has possible implications 'for' the 'other side' and that makes them mad.

    Well this is quite a crowd!

    Im sure within ten or twenty posts same ones complaining about this will be making 'what if' statements on some other issues.
    I guess this one is frowned upon.
     
  16. hipunk

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    You are welcome to believe in what ever you want.

    What I conclude from all this is that there are still fools in the world, but I'm sorry I didn't need proof.

    And boo hoo, we didn't fall for your trap.
    Well you are quite a cry baby!

    I rarely make what-if statements, but when I do they are never on the lines of "what if you stopped being black?" unless it's in jest.

    Like I sad, "There is no cure. Grow up!," you're free to quote me on that whenever you catch me making a what-if question.

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  17. Erasmus70

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    Perhaps you noticed the Title of the Thread asks would you 'Cure' it?
    Congratulations on not answering the question.
    That says a lot.
     
  18. hipunk

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    How many ways do I have to put this?

    There is nothing to cure.

    Would you cure brown eyes or dark skined?



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  19. DreamerSpirit

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    I must agree wih Hipunk... there is no more need to 'cure' it than there is to 'cure' blue eyes or a love of literature.
     
  20. Raving Sultan

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    Hanging out with gay guys is cool. they usually have hot girl friends and they wont cock block you
     

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