Seditious Beats was a "revolutionary hip-hop" radio show I used to listen to on Pacifica radio; the degree of socio-political awareness & criticism present in the lyrics far surpassed that of any modern "hippie" band I've heard. You're just not listening to the right stuff...
to be fair rock and protest songs are still around, bands like System of a down have been doing them their whole career. all I hope for is the death of rap and pop-punk. as for the future I agree that world music will play more of a part but that's already happening too, in metal bands like Nightwish and Lacuna Coil have incorporated their countries heritage into very heavy rock with beatiful female vocals. I also see electronics becoming a more established force in music with numeric and binaural tones which stimulate deep centers in the mind while meaning is conveyed through the lyrics. I would really love to see improvements in lyric writing, something more poetic than most of whats out today. I love the lyrics of Cradle of filth. inspired by Byron and Nietzsche with operatic and dirge themes. but thats just me
i think there should be a lot more a-tonal and poly-tonal experiments in mainstreem music. maybe even get american ears used to different scale increments and such. The whole idea is exciting to me, but it's probably not happening within my life time
yeah that's a good point. when there's a well established status quo, something big and new can break away. the 60s through mid 80s saw a lot of experimentation. it seems like no new movements have come along since then. hip hop met pop, and now we're stuck. just my opinions.
I could write thousands of words in response to all this but ill keep it short instead; Im sick of people wanting rebirths of musical styles. rock and roll was good, great, but its been done. it is an established style. the musicians who pioneered it created the style. If we go back on the style, all musicians will be doing is writing music to a certain style. I respect some techno artist who is at teh forefront of his culture and muscal type, than some rock revival band like Jet, who have punchy songs but who in the end are jsut rrecycling the work of other people. I think the sound of a band and of music is one of the main thigns that seperates differnet levels of musicians. It doesnt mean i listen to all the new crap thats coming out, but i still respect new alternative artists who are making new sounds. The problems stems from LABELLING. alternative music was once almost all music. all music was once new and fresh. now, you have alternative music, or established genres. or, everything is classed very specifically. I think musicians should be constantly trying to find new sounds and ways to express themselves. I think the ultimate future music, similar to the idea propose at the start, will be sounds ans audio waves that simply generate feelings inside you. sounds and rythms that are constructed precisely to evoke emotion. that is the logical direction. the world is getting lazier, music is getting more to do with emotion and angst and stuff, and the forefront of music is technology, electronic music, programmed music. But also notice how electronica and all that stuff has influenced the use of ecstacy, just like 80's music influenced stimulant use, and the 60's influenced psychedelics, maybe drugs will play a part in future music scenes too, that should be considered
Im thinkning also - breaking free from the 12 note scale we are in, and make an entirely new one, based on teh same principles.
Is that possible? I never thought about it, and don't know much about music (in the technical sense), but it seems like the scale is sorta standard, like red green and blue are standard primary colors. But if we COULD shift away from it, it'd be amazing (or really horrible sounding...haha).
Cradle of Filth's lyrics are quite brilliant indeed. Poetic, mystical, graceful and yet extremely tongue-in-cheek. Their songs are saturated with double meanings. In fact, most of it is just about sex, even when it doesn't seem to be. Dusk and her embrace from 1996 is their best album IMO. Great songwritership, dripping with atmosphere. They defininitely lost their magic with Midian for me. I like the album but there's something amiss, and stayed amiss until today. Maybe it's because Dani has turned from ultra cute to ultra ugly. :O But enough about that. I think that just like in all aspects of life, the computer will play a bigger and bigger role and we'll quite possibly end up totally dependent on it music-wise as well. Music will be composed, recorded, produced and distributed comletely computerisedly. I think. But let's hope I'm wrong.
My theory: if Peak Oil doesn't happen (or at least is a gentle-ish transition) then we may remain on a computerized music course of musical evolution. However, if it is a devestating change and we regress to a dark ages sort of lifestyle, prepare for much simpler music, mostly folk music sort of stuff: guitar, fiddle, banjo, woodwinds, lots of drums still, that sort of thing. No more crappy pop music either, the music will be simpler and more "true" in it's feeling. And thank god, there will be no synthesizers!
i'm pretty excited for Peak Oil...the worst thing that can happen is i starve to death...i'm not afraid (tripped enough...lol). but wtf, synths are freaking sweet while we're riding out the electricity era. i play electric guitar and wish to hell i had a synth and some piano lessons under my belt
well, the scale is based on a ratio. this ratio, when applied to a value and done so again 12 times will return to its original note, jut an octave higher/;ower) but also, each note can be expressed as a fraction with an integer denominator. im sure another ratio could be derived by maths
No, the worst thing that could happen (in my mind) would be to watch much of what you once loved disappear, watch (or at least know about) your friends and family dying, either by starvation, dehydration, disease, or violent attack by mobs, and then dying yourself. By the way, Bill...you may as well be speaking Greek in your last post, for all I understood it. I never got all that stuff about octaves and notes and stuff.
