Fuck Kodak.

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by FreeBird1969, Mar 19, 2005.

  1. FreeBird1969

    FreeBird1969 Fleas on their paws.

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    You think the processing of all that plastic and memory technology isn't harmful to the environment? The only thing that you use in analogue that is environmentally un-friendly is fixer. There's something else, I know, but what you do is dilute it enough and dispose of it correctly. That's a lie that somebody has fed to a lot of people. Digital is as hurtful and probably more harming to the environment as analogue is.
     
  2. Orsino2

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    On top of that analog stuff has been around much longer to begin with... eh... come to think of it, you're right. Technology is irritating.
     
  3. Syntax

    Syntax Senior Member

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    Yes, but people don't buy computers just for the purpose of taking photos.
     
  4. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    :(
     
  5. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    I was being sarcastic of course. :p
     
  6. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    :D
     
  7. FreeBird1969

    FreeBird1969 Fleas on their paws.

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    Yaye. :D I think I'm spelling analogue wrong. I think it looks prettier Frenchified.
     
  8. Orsino2

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    my god I feel kind of short. AHAHAH.
     
  9. Myranya

    Myranya Slytherin Girl

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    I love digital photography, since I take loads and loads more pics than I could ever afford to print & I wouldn't know where to put them all... but if/when I print something, I want it to be matte. I hate glossy pictures, the glare's awful! And indeed if you as much as brush your finger against them it'll leave a print. Ick, no glossy's for me.
     
  10. Orsino2

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    Yeah...I love matte. It owns. :D
     
  11. skip

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    Like most people who pollute, you're not seeing all the results of your actions. You're ignoring the chemicals that went into producing the film in the first place, the chemicals used in making the packaging of rolls of film including the plastic case, and of course the chemicals used to produce the paper which you so dearly miss including some dioxin creating chemicals.

    When you buy a digital camera or computer there's only a one time chemical use. There aren't endless polluting consumables, unless you go ahead and print the pictures instead of sending them electronically.
     
  12. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

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    MM, mm, good...

    Anyways.. I like digital photography and film photography. With both, I get to screw around with the photos. I really love film photography though because theres more satisfaction with making the photo from scratch. With digital photography, sure, you can make the photo essentially perfect. But its not because the original photo taken was perfect. Its because you edited it so much so that its perfect.
    I mean, haha.. I took a picture of some logs with my 35 mm camera. And theres nothing special about the picture, but I'm really happy it ended up coming out well. The photo was a pain in the ass at first because for some reason only the center of the photograph was fully developing. So I had to do dodging and burning. And a lot of you in photography may say that its not that hard, but dodging and burning really pisses me off and a lot of times I end up screwing it up. But this time I actually did it right, and I got a really nice photo...
    Hahah, this sounds stupid also, but I'm a lot happier in photography now since I achieved getting black, white and shades of gray all in one photo. Granted I'm in Photo II now and learned that at the beginning of Photo II, and in Photo I we only handed in two pictures and shot two rolls of film. The rest of the assignments were all writing assignments and magazine assignments. Weaving two different pictures, making scenes, etc...
    I really should be shooting a roll of film today, but I only remember some of the things that had to be on it. :rolleyes:
    Eggs, bottles... umm... stuff. :p So, I'll just shoot it and finish painting Boston on my wall and finish my drawing. For some reason I feel like going to a thrift store, but I'm not sure if any of them are open and I spent all my money at the fair...
    I really want a new camera. Not a film one though, but a digital one.

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/

    Wolf camera sells some good digi ones though. First I need a job to save up for a camera. I might get a summer one, but then again I might go on vacation to somewhere. I'd like to go to Boston and take thousands and thousands of pictures there. But from what I've been told by my parents, the closest to Boston I can get is Providence, Rhode Island, where my Aunt is. Blech. Shes a crazy orthodox Jew. And I think she'd attempt to force me to eat meat. Blech. I don't even think she knows I'm a vegetarian. I haven't talked to her in... 2 1/2 years. Woo, I'm going off topic.

    Next year I won't be able to take photography, as I am in IB. I won't be able to take it the year after that, either. I won't be able to take it at all anymore after this year... So I'd be really happy if I got a good digital camera and the newest version of Adobe Photoshop.
    I should get out of the house... hm.
    my mom and i are going shopping today. w0w.
    pbj
     
  13. Soulless||Chaos

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    Haha I wouldn't mind getting a digital SLR, the Canon EOS 10D looks pretty nice. :D
     
  14. FreeBird1969

    FreeBird1969 Fleas on their paws.

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    Uh...Noooo.

    It is amazingly easy to get environmentally-friendly photography equipment, film, paper, developers, stop baths, etc. Before digital became what it is, there were so many great innovations in the analog world on keeping our Earth healthy.

    But, I guess in this case, you kind of have to weigh it out. Which is more important: a healthy Earth or art? Earth is nothing without art, in my opinion. And digital has made it so anybody can pick up camera, take a picture of a beach and be revered for the picture's 'aesthetic value'. Digital photography is ruining the artistic worth of the photographic artform, and so having a healthy Earth isn't worth much to me anymore...
     
  15. Orsino2

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    Basically how I view it is that it's just a part of the abstractness. It's the difference between analog and digital solid state and tube...etc. :eek:
     
  16. Soulless||Chaos

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    Pretty much anyone could take a picture with analog as well.. A shitty picture is a shitty picture regardless of the medium. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Orsino2

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    Yeah... unless you've taken enough shitty pictures to learn how to take a not-so-shitty one and have fine tuned and perfected. :p :D
     
  18. lover/young_peace

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    You lost me at Micheal Bolton. :D
     
  19. skip

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    Yes, but on average there is still one gallon of toxic waste produced PER PHOTO! Few people bother with environmentally friendly products. So getting rid of film & developing (let's not forget the fuel ppl waste & pollution produced bringing in their photos & picking them up!), is REALLY helping the planet, not just massaging our consciences.

    BTW, I'm all for preserving film developing as a specialized art form (using all environmentally friendly products), but NOT for mass consumption.
     
  20. FreeBird1969

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    Can anyone develop a picture taken with an analog camera?
    Can anyone automatically look at the sun and determine the f-stop?
    A shitty analog photo is different from a shitty digital picture...you get so much pixelation with digital, and there's too much saturation. It's flat; there's no depth with a digital photograph.
     

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